Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/Image:Evstafiev-bosnia-cello.jpg

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Image:Evstafiev-bosnia-cello.jpg, not delisted[edit]

Cello player in Sarajevo

  • And yet, it's a valuable picture. Some, (perhaps most) of our featured pictures are featured (valuable) for their beauty alone, others are featured (valuable) for other reasons: their emotional impact, their historical significance, their education value. I cannot believe that having less pixels than (to pick a soft target) a typical macro shot of a pretty flower with a hoverfly on it makes this rare, perhaps unique, and hopefully unrepeatable image somehow not valuable. Regards, Ben Aveling
  • Thanks for the fresh breath of sanity in a nitpicking world. :) --JaGa 09:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Being valuable is not equal to being featured. Would you feature this version wich is 50% reduced on the side? There has to be some limit. And I would also like to quote Doodledoo:"This is likely a film scan, though, so is there a higher resolution possibilty?". And lastly, it may be valuable, it may also be not, but just a staged image. Is there not something like sources/references for historical images? Lycaon 09:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • You've reduced the size of that picture by 75% and you're asking me how much you've reduced the value of it? The answer is, you've reduced the value to 0. We still have this picture, so the reduced picture is worthless. Had you also deleted this image, then the smaller image would have value, less than this one does now, but far more than 25% of the value that this one does. If someone does upload a better version of this image, then the value of this image would drop to 0 but until then, this image has considerable value. It is one of our "finest pictures". Regards, Ben Aveling 21:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is? I wasn't expecting it to be. There is a limit, but it isn't hard and fast. For some images, 2M may not be enough. For others, lower limits are appropriate. I can think of one photo which has about 3 pixels that aren't solid black that I would support if we could get a free copy of it - the shot of earth from a vanishing space probe. (Can't find a reference right now, sorry.) I think I have already addressed the issue of hypothetical could exist but we don't have a copy pictures. As for it being staged, I don't see how to answer that, it's like asking was this taken with a camera. For certain, the player was deliberately sitting where he was so that he could be seen and heard, that goes with performing. Does that make the image any less real? Even if he was posing only for the camera, the image would still be an expression of how one man reacted to what was happening around him - which certainly was very real. Most of our FP are 'staged' in some way or another. We choose the subject, where to place ourselves, perhaps we have to wait for the right conditions, sometimes conditions present themselves to us if we are ready for them, sometimes we can create the conditions we want. Is that closer to a 75% answer? Regards, Ben Aveling 07:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
result: 5 Delist, 7 Keep, 0 neutral => not delisted. Simonizer 17:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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