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File:Toronto - ON - Toronto Harbourfront7.jpg (delist), not delisted[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 11 Nov 2019 at 10:59:37
The CN Tower and the Toronto Harbour viewed from the Toronto City Centre Airport.

  •  Info Blurry, low quality and probably wouldn't be even accepted as QI now. (Original nomination)
  •  Delist -- -- Pofka (talk) 10:59, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Where do you see blur? The photo is by all means OK for QI and I see no reason to delist it from FP at this point, either. --A.Savin 13:54, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • @A.Savin: Zoom in to the tower - it slowly melts with the sky with its blurry pixels. Other buildings have the same issue and that is simply because this image was taken 10 years ago with (now) outdated camera. Nowadays cameras captures even fastly moving objects without such shaky effect. -- Pofka (talk) 20:05, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • You don't need to teach me how to review pictures in terms of quality. Yes, of course I zoomed in -- truly at 100%. It seems to me, you are judging this photo after zooming in at far more than 100%; then it's of course no surprise to see blurry pixels everywhere; otherwise I simply cannot explain your statements about this and the one below. An other reason might be, that you have an old low-res monitor. There is definitely something wrong. And what can I say about your silly "double standards" accusation? Delisting a long-term FP is a bit different story than promoting a new FP candidate, you know? --A.Savin 03:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • At 100% almost every image does not have clear quality issues, except for such obvious reasons as poor lighting, fake colors, etc. If you did not noticed, everyone is zooming way more than 100% to check details because the 4 mpxs era is over long time ago. -- Pofka (talk) 21:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
          • Well, if you usually zoom your pictures, say, at 150%, then also File:Kaunas Town Hall 2, Kaunas, Lithuania - Diliff.jpg will appear rather soft; I've checked. So, your explanation is not logical so far; but in case you zoomed File:Toronto - ON - Toronto Harbourfront7.jpg to the same size as Kaunas Hall to compare, it's clear of course: 2,434 × 3,834 pixels vs. 4,983 × 8,000 pixels are hardly to compare. So, the correct rationale for delisting Toronto Harbour is not "blurry" (because IMHO there is a huge difference between "not pinsharp" and "blurry"), but "low resolution compared to what today's high-end cameras such as Nikon D850 provide". But the current consensus is that we should NOT delist formerly promoted pictures just because of their resolution of less than 10 Mpx. --A.Savin 15:31, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep This nomination seem just to be a reaction of disappointment after nomination of Kaunas Town hall has failed. Sharpness is ok here. I can´t see any reason for delisting and support the decision from 2013. --Milseburg (talk) 14:04, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Milseburg: Well there was a lot of talks about "quality standards" and others noted in your mentioned nomination that these images are even worse, so it is my duty to provide equality and see if some people's words are worth anything. -- Pofka (talk) 20:05, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep - I think I said in that thread that I might or would probably vote to delist this one (I don't remember which), but looking at it again, it's really not bad, and I think delisting should be reserved for obvious cases. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep per Milseburg and what I wrote in the other delist. Feeling like people are applying different standards to your photo is frustrating, and it's often the case that we nominate something better than other FPs and it doesn't get promoted. It's not always predictable or necessarily fair, even, except that the process is the same for everyone. — Rhododendrites talk04:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep --Uoaei1 (talk) 17:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Daniel Case (talk) 14:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep --Boothsift Is Here 06:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Result: 1 delist, 7 keep, 0 neutral => not delisted. MZaplotnik(talk) 15:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]