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Info created and uploaded by Holger Motzkau nominated by PETER WEIS TALK 21:17, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Support PETER WEIS TALK 21:17, 11 December 2011 (UTC)- Support//Hannibal (talk) 21:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Support Cool stuff, good quality, valuable. --Paolo Costa (talk) 12:30, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Support -- Cecil (talk) 16:51, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Oppose -- Valuable interview I suppose but I don't see any audio/visual brilliance. Is this nomination just because the subject won a Nobel prize? Colin (talk) 19:51, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Comment I nominated this video because it has high quality, which is rare amongst videos on the Commons. Having an interview with a nobel prize winner available under a free licence is great and I consider this content worthy as well. The often quoted WOW factor for images does not apply for documentation vidoes such as this interview in my opinion. In a nutshell quality and content made me feature it. Regards, PETER WEIS TALK 09:51, 13 December 2011 (UTC)- Oppose It is a valuable interview with a notable person and the technical quality is quite good both visually and audio-wise. But it does not really stand out for me as something exceptional. The interviewer is clearly not very experienced as compared to a professional interviewer on TV, and the production with the setting and the background is not very attractive. I really had to restrain myself from not "zapping" away right from the start. It became better though along the way, except for the end, where the interviewer runs out of questions. And it is even my domain, as I am educated as a physicist. The interview targets the young interested in science and wondering about which career to take. However, I do not think many 15-year olds would see the video from end to end. --Slaunger (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your feedback. Do you have an example of an interview on Commons where you say it was better done? Finding a experienced interviewer is quite hard, and Axel is one of the best Wikimedians for communication i know about in Sweden. How can we find a better? The background setting is the same all media got with the laureates. How do you think one could get more out of the scene? What should be done better from preventing you zapping away? Who should these videos mainly target? Which questions are the most interesting having answered in a Wikipedia article? We decided to focus more on their biography and personal development instead of research. I'm a physicist, too, and could have talked to him (and Shechtman) about physics, but is this really what readers are interested in? I'm asking all these questions since we may do some more interviews in the future, and making them even better. This was so far the first attempt. --Prolineserver (talk) 08:41, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Prolineserver. Good and many questions. I do not have examples of interviews on Commons, which is better done. But I also do not think that videos is not the optimal media format on Commons the way Commons is set up now. The problem is that it is very hard to compete with the resources, gear and professionalism of journalists and interviewers on commercial TV stations. Given the boundary conditions for you folks, and gven it was the first attempt, I think the end result was very good. Yet, it just does not really stand out, as we are used to the standards in commercial broadcasts. I think the topic for the interview is good, and I agree with you that it is less alienating than speaking about the physics, as only very narrow group would follow that. Some ideas for future imprevements though. Bring a piece of uniformly colored cloth, e.g., black or grey, that can be suspended in the background to give it a studio-feel. There are too many distracting elements in the background as it is now. Consider to bring some lightning and set that up if possible. Consider standing up by a small cafe table instead. It usually gives more energetic interviews in my opinion than the laid-back sitting down interview. When standing up, there are also better possibilities to make gestures with hand and body I think. Consider blending in still photos from the laurates youth and childhood to set the words he use in context. Ideally, if a photo of him with his favotire high school teacher was available. Having one long clip with an interview can be a little boring to look at. The interviewer should omit the superfluous "Good" or "That's good" when the laurate hands over the word. The interviewer should not run out of questions. Some of the things I propose may actually worsen things. I dunno, live media and its toolbox is not something I am terribly knowledgable about, but try and see what works. I also think just getting some more experience doing these things will help, so keep working
. --Slaunger (talk) 09:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC) - One last thing. The microphone. If possible use microphones clipsed to the clothes of the individuals participating in the interview. --Slaunger (talk) 09:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- A videolight and better microphones are already on our shopping list, sound actually turned out to be the hardest part. I found another video of a Nobel laureate on Commons, but it is by no means better. I don't think that we cannot reach the quality of professionals due to lack of resources, Commons photos can compete. Though the chance of accidentally taking a great photo is higher than accidentally making a good video, most of the good-quality pictures on Commons are taken by experienced amateur photographers with gear much worse than that of professionals. The key is experience. And we have to find ways of minimizing the need/influence of an interviewer. My big question is still: What kind of videos are most useful?
- Regarding the specific setting we will probably not be able to improve it much to next year. All media is using it, and all have a 5-min-slot: Moving/setting up the equipment, doing the interview, and removing everything while the next one is setting up. The maximum one can do is moving the Nobel laureate and his chair around. Do you really think a standing interview is better? Most of the interviews are done while sitting. Many people tend to move quite a lot which makes it harder to get a headshot. You are talking about gestures, but they are not visible at all in the crop I have chosen. What do you think is the best crop?
- SVT and Nobelprize.org had much better interview possibilities. Do you think this is less boring? Would it be more interesting? What do you think about the cutting? It was probably done with one camera only, which is quite annoying since his right hand shifts around. The best setting got SVT between the award ceremony and the banquet (34:30). So final question: Which of these interviews are best fitting in a biography? --Prolineserver (talk) 22:37, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Prolineserver. Good and many questions. I do not have examples of interviews on Commons, which is better done. But I also do not think that videos is not the optimal media format on Commons the way Commons is set up now. The problem is that it is very hard to compete with the resources, gear and professionalism of journalists and interviewers on commercial TV stations. Given the boundary conditions for you folks, and gven it was the first attempt, I think the end result was very good. Yet, it just does not really stand out, as we are used to the standards in commercial broadcasts. I think the topic for the interview is good, and I agree with you that it is less alienating than speaking about the physics, as only very narrow group would follow that. Some ideas for future imprevements though. Bring a piece of uniformly colored cloth, e.g., black or grey, that can be suspended in the background to give it a studio-feel. There are too many distracting elements in the background as it is now. Consider to bring some lightning and set that up if possible. Consider standing up by a small cafe table instead. It usually gives more energetic interviews in my opinion than the laid-back sitting down interview. When standing up, there are also better possibilities to make gestures with hand and body I think. Consider blending in still photos from the laurates youth and childhood to set the words he use in context. Ideally, if a photo of him with his favotire high school teacher was available. Having one long clip with an interview can be a little boring to look at. The interviewer should omit the superfluous "Good" or "That's good" when the laurate hands over the word. The interviewer should not run out of questions. Some of the things I propose may actually worsen things. I dunno, live media and its toolbox is not something I am terribly knowledgable about, but try and see what works. I also think just getting some more experience doing these things will help, so keep working
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Result: 4 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 06:53, 21 December 2011 (UTC)