File talk:Flag of Kuban People's Republic.svg

Colors

Hello! Regarding the colors. I chose the closest Web-safe colors (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/d/da/20231003115704%21Flag_of_Kuban_People%27s_Republic.svg) to the ribbon which was used withing the White Movement:

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  Khrest por'atunok Kubani I (str).jpg

0#06C0 0#F060 0#0960

– Ιγκόρ (talk) 06:09, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Continuing here, Viktor Lomantsov sent an email to the "main flagmaker company" in Krasnodar Krai since me and him were trying to pin down the colors. The brandbook doesn't have a consruction sheet and the only illustration of the flag in it is a drawing taken from Wikipedia. While it has a page of colors it doesn't say which are used on the flag; but there is a really nice shade of raspberry red that I used (Pantone 185 XGC) since it's the only thing I can actually verify, with the shade of blue and green being a complete mystery to us both. NorthTension (talk) 11:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

https://stock.adobe.com/au/search?k=kuban%20people%27s%20republic

http://www.states-world.ru/state.php/2672

These are one of many sources where this version of the flag is used, but I have never seen your version anywhere. If you have doubts about the crimson color, then the central stripe on the flag of Rasnodar Dd12467 (talk) 10:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

So let's start with the fact that the flag has not changed since 2008, and this whole story of changes began after one of the users added his own incorrect flag. Over time, he kept adding incorrect versions of the colors. After that, another user added his own incorrect colors and indicated a link as a source, but I didn’t find anything similar from this link. Please stop changing the flag now, because it is very stupid to change now what has not changed since 2008, especially since you have no evidence that your colors are correct. First of all, you should focus on the flag of the Krasnodar krai, since its idea was taken from the flag of Kuban. And by the way, when I was at school they showed us exactly this flag as the flag of Kuban. I know this is pretty bad evidence, but it still exists, and all resources about Kuban use this particular version of the flag. Please stop! Dd12467 (talk) 10:49, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

In this case, please use the my latest version because it's significantly smaller in size.

<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="900" height="600" viewBox="0 0 6 4">
<rect fill="#096" width="6" height="4"/>
<rect fill="#F06" width="6" height="3"/>
<rect fill="#06C" width="6" height="1"/>
</svg>

You may also think about using the Web-safe approximation of that Pantone color which would give you the following:

0#06C0 0#C030 0#0960

However, both the approximation and the Pantone color itself are rather crimson than raspberry, yet this is still way better than pink which is extremely inaccurate.

– Ιγκόρ (talk) 14:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do; funnily enough Viktor had sent me his assessment of the Wikipedia file and the red came out as the literal Pantone for "Barbie Pink."

I wish I knew of a shade of raspberry to use since I'm bad with discerning specific colors sometimes lol.

The extra annoying bit about the brandbook is that since it has that page with colors to be used, there are now 28 possible combinations of blue - Pantone 185 - green possible (this is including Pantone 286, which is the Russian flag blue, and mmy equidistanced version of that and another color I don't remember the source of which is the current one I have on the flag of Krasnodar Krai. NorthTension (talk) 15:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

How do these look, amico? NorthTension (talk) 22:24, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

As web-safe colors have become increasingly obsolete, using Pantone 185 XGC red is probably a better option. By the way, the hex code for Pantone 185 XGC is #DA0039. [1]. SVG-image-maker (talk) 00:57, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

This isn't flag of Krasnodar krai

Photo of flag:

https://kubantv.ru/obshhestvo/den-simvolov-krasnodarskogo-kraya-otprazdnovali-na-kubani Dd12467 (talk) 15:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Colors

So let's start with the fact that the flag has not changed since 2008, and this whole story of changes began after one of the users added his own incorrect flag. Over time, he kept adding incorrect versions of the colors. After that, another user added his own incorrect colors and indicated a link as a source, but I didn’t find anything similar from this link. Please stop changing the flag now, because it is very stupid to change now what has not changed since 2008, especially since you have no evidence that your colors are correct. First of all, you should focus on the flag of the Krasnodar krai, since its idea was taken from the flag of Kuban. And by the way, when I was at school they showed us exactly this flag as the flag of Kuban. I know this is pretty bad evidence, but it still exists, and all resources about Kuban use this particular version of the flag. Please stop! Dd12467 (talk) 10:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

https://stock.adobe.com/au/search?k=kuban%20people%27s%20republic

http://www.states-world.ru/state.php/2672

These are one of many sources where this version of the flag is used, but I have never seen your version anywhere. If you have doubts about the crimson color, then the central stripe on the flag of Rasnodar Dd12467 (talk) 10:53, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

http://www.states-world.ru/state.php/2672

https://stock.adobe.com/au/search?k=kuban%20people%27s%20republic

These are one of many sources where this version of the flag is used, but I have never seen your version anywhere. If you have doubts about the raspberry color, then the central stripe on the flag of Krasnodar krai has the same color as on the flag of Kuban, and is also called raspberry Dd12467 (talk) 10:56, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

So aside from using sources that are just reusing Wikipedia files, do you have absolutely nothing to say about the first section on this page? NorthTension (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

This flag with these colors is used on almost all websites about Kuban. But I couldn't find your option anywhere. The tapes shown below are some kind of proof, since it is unclear where they came from and how they were created. Upon request "Flag of the Kuban People's Republic" only the original flag is returned, but not your version, which is not on any website. I demand that you stop changing the already correct version of the flag. And in my opinion it is very stupid to change the flag, which has remained unchanged since 2008. Please stop!

There is also another source:

https://kuban-republic.info/en/113/70-70.html

https://lori.ru/1615840

http://w.ethnia.org/polity.php?ASK_CODE=XD__&ASK_YY=1919&ASK_MM=12&ASK_DD=01&SL=en

http://1900.ethnia.org/polity.php?ASK_CODE=XD__&ASK_YY=1918&ASK_MM=11&ASK_DD=06&SL=en Dd12467 (talk) 21:40, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

So once again these are all reusing Wikipedia files, and once again you are outright ignoring the evidence provided at the top of the page. NorthTension (talk) 08:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

I repeat once again, Almost nothing is known about your version of colors, and even a certain Viktor also cannot know what the colors were in 1918. The only fact that we have is that the flag of Kuban was the prototype of flag of the Krasnodar region. In turn, the flag of the Krasnodar Territory uses this particular version of the crimson color. I myself live in the Krasnodar region and I know what the flag looks like.

https://kubantv.ru/obshhestvo/den-simvolov-krasnodarskogo-kraya-otprazdnovali-na-kubani Dd12467 (talk) 15:21, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

So no, you still don't have any evidence aside from "I live here and I know what it looks like", okay so can you provide a construction sheet from the local government or literally anything? Do you even know who Lomantsov is? NorthTension (talk) 01:22, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Also if we cannot know what the colors in 1918 were, why do we have the medals with the ribbons showing us what the colors are? NorthTension (talk) 01:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Dd12467 Hello? I gave you evidence and a question two weeks ago and you still have ignored anything contrary to your opinion. NorthTension (talk) 12:12, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Lol, if you want, I can even send you a photo of the flag of the Krasnodar region taken by me Dd12467 (talk) 18:43, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Once again that has literally nothing to do with the KNR's flag and you are, once again, ignoring everything I'm saying. NorthTension (talk) 11:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

You also cannot know the colors of the Kuban flag, because no official data from that time has survived. The only thing you have is some unknown people who are not even officials. The only fact that we have is that the flag of Kuban became the prototype of the flag of Krasnodar Dd12467 (talk) 23:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

So we can't know the colors of the flag of the KNR yet we have medals showing us what the colors were? How does that make sense? NorthTension (talk) 00:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)