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When did Cape Juby / Tarfaya Strip move from France to Spain?[edit]

This map indicates later Cape Juby territory (Tarfaya Strip) as French, not Spanish. If that was indeed the case in 1913, this other Commons map is wrong, as it shows Cape Juby as a “Protectorat espagnol du Maroc” in 1912.

The English WP article says only negotiations between Spain and France took place in 1912, and that the Spanish only only officially occupied Cape Juby on 1916-07-29, so that wouldn't conflict with this map (Colonial Africa 1913) at all, unlike Marrocoprotectorate.png. Dustsucker 21:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Finally I decided to modify the area of Cape Juby as under Spanish influence because:
  • even if (following the WP-en article) the area may only have been occupied by the Spanish in 1916, the area was theirs by the Treaty of Fez since 1912;
  • looking better at the maps I used, specially Bartholomew's one, the area is shown as Spanish.
Sting (talk) 21:54, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

too light[edit]

I feel this image might be a bit too light to be included in the encyclopedia, especially on a smaller size. Any thoughts? Lucasbfr (talk) 22:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Libya[edit]

Where do the French get two chunks of the Fezzan from? If they really were French, I assume they went to Italy after WWI like Jubaland, but unlike Jubaland, I'd never heard that one. Any sources? --Quintucket (talk) 16:59, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are the maps given as reference in the description page. If the shape of the SE border may change from one map to the other (also because of the date of each one), they show clearly that the boundary didn't follow modern Libya's one. Sting (talk) 09:20, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
None of these are contemporary maps, however I can confirm this with the UAlabama Map Collection. I'd still like to know what happened though. Is it a surveying issue? If not, why did the land change hands? —Quintucket (talk) 18:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dervish state?[edit]

According to the article on the subject, the Dervish state remained independent until of European powers until 1920. It was a recognized ally of the Germans and the Ottomons during World War I. Shouldn't its borders - even the defacto ones - be represented in some way on this map? Comment left at 17:00 Eastern Standard time by unregistered user!

Many areas on this map remained outside of direct European control, by simple virtue of the map showing a massive land area that is hard to patrol even in the present day. It shows the official delineations, as de facto borders are hard to ascertain. The Dervish state didn't exist before European colonisation, instead it was a nascent independence rebellion which although quite successful before it was defeated never received much recognition. The areas it controlled shifted throughout this time. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:34, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]