Commons:Valued image candidates/Pedicularis palustris (plant).jpg

Pedicularis palustris (plant).jpg

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Nominated by	Lycaon (talk) on 2009-05-19 21:00 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Pedicularis palustris subsp. palustris (Marsh Lousewort)
Used in	Global usage de:Sumpf-Läusekraut, lt:Pelkinė glindė, nl:Moeraskartelblad, pl:Gnidosz błotny, sv:Kärrspira, zh:沼生马先蒿沼生
Review (criteria)	Comment Oh, you have Pedicularis as well. What your camera hasn't seen?!? Anyway, very nice image. For the Pedicularis palustris, I think you can actually identify to subspecies level. For instance, in Denmark, we have two visually distinct subspecies, ssp. palustris and ssp. opsiantha. I do not know which subspecies are known in Belgium, but from the shape of the inflorescence and the upper/lower lip flower size I would say ssp. palustris. So I am wondering if a subspecies scope would be more relevant? I am on thin ice tough, as my feedback is solely based on this comprehensive Nordic flora book "Den Nye Nordiske Flora", which I just got today, which is the flora reference for the Scandinavian countries. I am not yet very familiar with it and its terminology. What do you think? --Slaunger (talk) 21:56, 19 May 2009 (UTC) The use of subspecies (for P. palustris) seems to be a Scandinavian issue. Apparently P. p. ssp. opsiantha and P. p. ssp. borealis are northern forms. We only have Pedicularis palustris ssp. palustris, the subspecies level is not even mentioned in any of my floras. Maybe a species scope would be sufficient until quality pictures of the different subspecies turn up? Lycaon (talk) 07:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Well, the three subspecies you mention are quite different in their visual appearance, they even have distinct vernacular names in Danish. The ssp. palustris (this one) is called Eng-Troldurt (Meadow...) 15-40 cm has this relatively compact inflorescence, where the leaves and flowers become increasingly more dense at the top. The ssp. opsiantha is called Høst-Troldurt (Harvest...) and that one is taller, 30-80 cm and has a more cone-shaped inflorescence and not so dense. Finally, ssp. borealis is called Nordlig Troldurt (Northern...) which refers to the borelean climate region in which it is distributed. The inflorescense of that one is much more thinly populated with leaves and flowers, and look overall more "fragile". So, I tend to believe that a subspecies scope is warranted in this case, irrespective of whether the subspecies are irrelevant in countries other than the Scandinavian ones. --Slaunger (talk) 20:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Scope changed from Pedicularis palustris (Marsh Lousewort) to Pedicularis palustris subsp. palustris (Marsh Lousewort) Lycaon (talk) 21:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Please notify previous voters of this change. Remember: "A support vote that was made before a change of scope is not counted unless it is reconfirmed afterwards; an oppose vote is counted unless it is changed or withdrawn".  Support Scope issue resolved. --Slaunger (talk) 21:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Result: 1 support, 0 oppose => promoted. Eusebius (talk) 10:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)