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Image:Lwów - Widok z wieży ratuszowej 01.jpg, not delisted[edit]
Info I don't see why this is a featured picture. Imho it has nothing spectacular, composition is ordinary, there is no wow at all. (Original nomination)
Delist --guillom 20:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Keep --Lestat 21:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)- Keep --Dezidor 21:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep --WarX 22:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Yeah, delist month after featuring ...
- Keep -- This was too recent and there was no obvious error of judgement. Lycaon 23:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Much too recent to reconsider. We shouldn't use this as a method of getting a revote on FPs we happen not to like personally. --MichaelMaggs 05:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- So basically, you all vote Keep because it has been promoted recently, and none of you actually consider whether it really deserves to be a FP? I am very disappointed. None of the voters on this page, nor on the original nomination, gave any arguments to explain why this is one of "the finest on Commons", apart from "Yes" or "Like it". I don't understand how so many people can simply hide behind the fact it has been promoted recently, and don't even consider if this image is a FP or not. guillom 09:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delist Distortion!! --Simonizer 07:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delist per Guillom --Herby talk thyme 09:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delist As Original nomination: Detail, distortion, some noise. Need more to FP. --Beyond silence 10:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Good photo Wiktoryn 11:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Why delist it after just two month??? Nomination and featuring guidelines have not been changed since, so please respect the original nomination votings.--Jeses 13:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Everybody can make a mistake. Proposing this image to be delisted may be a mistake. Promoting it may have been a mistake too. I doubt this image deserves to be a FP, so in good faith I ask opinions. I'd really like to see people saying why they think it should be a FP, rather than saying it's too soon to contest its status. guillom 14:37, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Guillom. The reason people are saying 'too soon' is that it's not normal to delist an FP so quickly unless there was some real error in the original voting. The practical reason for that is to ensure a reasonable level of certainty that a properly-awarded FP promotion will stick for at least some time. If FPs that succeed on a close vote could be posted for delisting immediately, we would spend all our time re-voting at the request of one of the initial opposers. Since delistings normally get much less attention than nominations, it would be all to easy for a FP to lose its status simply because many users who voted for it initially didn't spot that it was up for delisting. For similar reasons, the community tends not to favour the immediate relisting of nominations for FP status that have just narrowly failed. I hope that clarifies the responses you have seen here. --MichaelMaggs 17:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I thank you for taking the time to discuss this. What I wonder is: what if the original promotion is a mistake? Which I believe is the case here, but let's widen the debate; if the community think this particular image is a FP, it's fine. But I still wonder about the process: if the original image is promoted but doesn't deserve to be a FP, you advise to keep it as FP (at the risk of giving a poor image of Commons), instead of proposing to delist it? guillom 18:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I have no problems with delists, but why attacking a recent FP that scraped through without IMO obvious error of judgement? Tackle the old and more blatant cases first if delisting is what you must. Lycaon 19:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't want to attack anything, nor must I delist. I found this picture on the main page yesterday, and I found it was giving a poor image of Commons, that's why I proposed it for delist, that's all. guillom 20:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I see, though I don't agree. Lycaon 21:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't want to attack anything, nor must I delist. I found this picture on the main page yesterday, and I found it was giving a poor image of Commons, that's why I proposed it for delist, that's all. guillom 20:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I have no problems with delists, but why attacking a recent FP that scraped through without IMO obvious error of judgement? Tackle the old and more blatant cases first if delisting is what you must. Lycaon 19:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I thank you for taking the time to discuss this. What I wonder is: what if the original promotion is a mistake? Which I believe is the case here, but let's widen the debate; if the community think this particular image is a FP, it's fine. But I still wonder about the process: if the original image is promoted but doesn't deserve to be a FP, you advise to keep it as FP (at the risk of giving a poor image of Commons), instead of proposing to delist it? guillom 18:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Guillom. The reason people are saying 'too soon' is that it's not normal to delist an FP so quickly unless there was some real error in the original voting. The practical reason for that is to ensure a reasonable level of certainty that a properly-awarded FP promotion will stick for at least some time. If FPs that succeed on a close vote could be posted for delisting immediately, we would spend all our time re-voting at the request of one of the initial opposers. Since delistings normally get much less attention than nominations, it would be all to easy for a FP to lose its status simply because many users who voted for it initially didn't spot that it was up for delisting. For similar reasons, the community tends not to favour the immediate relisting of nominations for FP status that have just narrowly failed. I hope that clarifies the responses you have seen here. --MichaelMaggs 17:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Everybody can make a mistake. Proposing this image to be delisted may be a mistake. Promoting it may have been a mistake too. I doubt this image deserves to be a FP, so in good faith I ask opinions. I'd really like to see people saying why they think it should be a FP, rather than saying it's too soon to contest its status. guillom 14:37, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Too soon. -- Ram-Man 14:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep No way - not this soon --Pumpmeup 10:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep --Winiar✉ 16:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Reluctant Keep Not because it is too soon, but because it barely makes it to FP IMO. Ligtning and sharpness is OK. So is composition although perhaps a little ordinary. The subject in itself is also interesting as L'viv is undergoing dramatic changes these years. In principle, I agree with you Guillom, that it is perfectly OK to suggest a delisting of any FP if you find it is not up to standards. There are variances in the FP voting process and sometimes things slip through, which should not have been accepted. -- Slaunger 20:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep As everyone stated above and because I feel that this has sufficiently met FP criteria. Freedom to share 01:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Solely to avoid rapid fire delisting. --JaGa 18:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep -- Walké 20:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
result: 14 keep, 4 delist => Not delisted. -- Slaunger 22:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
