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File:Sturnus vulgaris in Napa Valley.jpg, not featured[edit]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 23 Nov 2009 at 01:49:49 (UTC)
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- Info everything by Mbz1 -- Mbz1 (talk) 01:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- Mbz1 (talk) 01:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose. The crop, the quality and the small section of plant on the bottom edge. --Silversmith Hewwo 04:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- What about the crop, if I may ask?--Mbz1 (talk) 11:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- I don't like that you can't see all of the birds in the flock. I appreciate, since it was obviously a large flock, that it probably wasn't possible. The photo to me just looks like lots of dark flecks on blue and even the largest birds aren't clear when zoomed in. For me, I'd either like a picture with beautiful composition where you can see an entire flock but not make out the birds clearly, or a small flock where, when you zoom in, you have great focus on at least some of the birds. --Silversmith Hewwo 23:19, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comment This is a beautiful image that I'd love to support, provided that the plant is cropped out and maybe a gentle denoise is done. -- JovanCormac 12:01, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Support But it would be better without the plant. --Lošmi (talk) 21:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose The composition is messy, which seems to be a deliberate choice by the
authornominator (same thing). Evaluation of this scene is therefore very subjective. I praise the composition for being somewhat against the norms, but I don't consider this picture to be exceptional. --S23678 (talk) 16:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- My deliberate choice???? What in a world do you mean?For everybody else here's how those birds are flying In my situation that "bird cloud" just happened to be all around me, so I guess it really was my "deliberate choice" . I wish I had many more choices like that one, I really do because it is a sight to behold--Mbz1 (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- To answer to the points you've added after my answer below, even though you do not control the birds, you do control the composition to a large extent, and you are the nominator of this FPC, which makes the choice of such a composition for FPC to be deliberate (or, in other words : calculated, advised, intentional, well though out...) --S23678 (talk) 23:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- These thousands of birds fly in a somewhat chaotic way, which is expressed in the composition. It seems to be deliberately chaotic, a picture nominated for it's absence of apparent order. --S23678 (talk) 17:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose --Leafnode✉ 13:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose, --Vprisivko (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Alt 1[edit]
- Any better? --Mbz1 (talk) 14:36, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Mbz1 (talk) 16:13, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Support Perfect now. Great picture. -- JovanCormac 15:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Some of the birds has been cloned. I don't get why... Plus, I like natural sky color more. --Lošmi (talk) 21:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Support I like this a lot. can you point out the cloned birds? Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 23:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, here's the original File:Sturnus vulgaris in Napa Valley original.jpg. As you could see there was not just one plant, but two plants in the image. I did not want simply to cut the the plants off because then some nice birds would have been cut off as well. So I removed the plants using cloning. Of course I added "retouched" template to the edit.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Per my comments above. --S23678 (talk) 16:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose as Lošmi. *sigh* A typical Mbz picture... --AngMoKio (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- No, not like Lošmi *sigh*. Lošmi supported the original one, while you only opposed alternative. On the other hand it is good that you opposed as Lošmi and not as S23678 :) --Mbz1 (talk) 22:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose --Leafnode✉ 13:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose, --Vprisivko (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 5 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 09:59, 23 November 2009 (UTC)