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File:On the edge - free world version.jpg, featured[edit]

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Drawing of a fictional landscape with a figure in manga/anime style. The title of this image is: On the Edge.
  •  Info created, uploaded, nominated by Niabot -- Niabot (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Abstain Critique is welcome -- Niabot (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I want to like this image, and I am a fan of most your work, technical illustrations, renderings, and Anime artwork. But I have several problems with this image. The rock texture on the left looks washed out and not very believable, the river has something going on with perspective, just at the waterfall it seems we look down on it at a steeper angle, the grass at the edge of the river looks smudged together (I'm missing some crisp edge here, the grass just blurrily blends into its own reflection). The gate looks unmotivated and just pasted into the landscape (connect it with some bushy grass around the posts maybe?). The waterfall itself lacks crispness. You may be going for a certain look here, but this has too much the feel of amateurish watercolor. --Dschwen (talk) 22:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Kawaii :) Masur (talk) 09:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC) ps. I can only criticize the hand holding "the staff (?)". I don't see the fingers very natural, while holding this item. Gives me a slight impression of misfit. Masur (talk) 14:10, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Good work! But, as usual, I don't understand some things : Why manga woman rhymes with big tits? Why the landscape is also oversaturated (flickr kitsch) and why I cannot determine the educational value of this image? best regards --Citron (talk) 13:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Let me comment on this. So "big tits" and this image in general is some kind of archetypal manga drawing. And, I need to admit that one either likes this style (I'm not saying - manga in general) or not. Similar to one of the previous Niabot's nomination, where the "tilted camera" POV was disapproved, but was typical for manga on the other hand. Masur (talk) 14:08, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Colorspace from this picture
Colorspace from oversaturated image File:Dundus Square.jpg. Visible color distribution near the edges of the RGB-Cube.
    •  Comment "Why manga woman rhymes with big tits?" Since every time i present an image, with a girl that is less developed, someone claims to see child pornography. "Why the landscape is also oversaturated[?]" It's a colorfull drawing. Oversaturation is a technical issue, that does not apply to images like this one, since it isn't. ^^ --Niabot (talk) 14:24, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm myself an illustrator particulary influenced by the manga, IMO it is a style aimed primarily the young's. In fact, it's regrettable to mislead the young reader of Wikipedia with free and discrete pornography. I prefer your example because the choice is assumed. In this featured picture candidate, I find that the nudity isn't justified, as the landscape catches also our attention. When I talk about oversaturation, I talk in fact the choice of colors, IMO I find this little bit exaggerated for a sun so high in the sky. :) --Citron (talk) 12:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I would tend to say that the majority of the audience from this style is over 18, since most of the commercial works are rated at least 16. Series created for the younger audience are an exception in numbers, even if some of them are very popular. Meaning that the number of works intended for an older audience is larger, even if the number of published copies is lower. Regarding the oversaturation: Since the image is not technically oversaturated, you can always reduce the saturation without artifacts. If it would be to less saturated, you can't increase saturation without visible errors. --Niabot (talk) 13:29, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I like it. Well it's manga so the colors or landscape do not have to make sense ;-) --Aktron (talk) 13:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Pro2 (talk) 13:43, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Superb work Rastrojo (D•ES) 15:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Not educational, nor is it one of our best examples of manga style. See this and this as examples of featured quality work in the genre. Steven Walling 21:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment I hope you know the difference between manga and anime style. All three would be more fitting to anime, but as you should know, the style has a wide variety. It shows, instead of the two previously mentioned examples, that the style isn't limited to simple outlines, lighting and backgrounds. --Niabot (talk) 21:58, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I honestly don't care. The fact that is that this is a cartoon of a topless woman in a fantasy setting. It's not particularly good compared to other featured work, and no person outside Commons would say it's educational if they saw it. Steven Walling 08:29, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral just not really in the mood to vote in favor of something that isn't actually something. (Slight weirdness aside) I'm not really sure we need a drawing of a girl with her nipples hanging out, or I'd be more in favor if it was cultural or historic. Maybe I'm not being fair to anime and maybe in time it will gain more respect like those of other art forms. Although I do like the idea of users being able to nominate artwork of their own that isn't photographic, computer rendered or totally EV-related - not that EV arguments can't be made for this - if only to check out users' art, creativity and such. =) --IdLoveOne (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support i like her big tits :-) Bunnyfrosch (talk) 22:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Stephen Walling and Dschwen.--Snaevar (talk) 23:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually since I reviewed the image it was (in my opinion) considerably improved. I like the new waterfall much better than the old one, the new riverbank is an improvement and the light/shadow around the gate is much nicer too. --Dschwen (talk) 23:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for the info. I wasn´t quite sure how I should vote on a manga picture. Steven Walling´s vote made the most sense to me about what I should look for, but the reasoning behind the vote was based on Dschwen thoughts, as I agreed with him, and I still do in all aspects but one. I still think that the left bedrock could be sharper, but I don´t feel like that is reason enough to oppose the picture. I therefore change my vote to  Neutral.--Snaevar (talk) 00:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment -- There is something wrong with the perspective of the river, which looks like that Escher engraving in which the water is flowing upward (here) -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 23:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support i know that it was very much of work for the user. i have seen the first lines of it and can see now the result: a wunderful work. alofok* 17:30, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  1.  Support - very good work. -- Felix König ✉ 19:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 8 support, 2 oppose, 2 neutral → featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 09:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Non-photographic media
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