Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Beeld van Heilige Christoffel in Broekhuizen (Horst aan de Maas) in provincie Limburg in Nederland 01.jpg
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Objects
- Info created and uploaded by User:Famberhorst - nominated by User:Ikan Kekek -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Support -- The lighting really makes this look like an execution scene, reminiscent at least in mood of some classic Crucifixion paintings or perhaps a lynching victim hung in a tree. I find the picture moving. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose It’s a nice idea and moving, right, but apart from the saint being mostly in shadow, I find the resolution too low on the main object to be featured (95 percent of the not-too-many-anyway pixels have been sold on surrounding), and it looks oversharpened (overdone edges). --Kreuzschnabel 06:27, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - I have no argument to make on technical matters, so I wouldn't at all suggest for you to change your vote. However, I really resist the notion that a photo in which a statue is the key point of it has to have a disproportionate amount of space taken up by the statue. As is often the case in landscapes that include a particular focus, the subject really is the statue within the landscape, and the larger point is the way the light and surroundings give the sculpture meaning. And to me, the statue being in shadow is perfect for making a poetic statement about its meaning. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:38, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - here are a couple of examples of crucifixion scenes by Pieter Breughel the Younger. What percentage of the picture frame is devoted to Christ on the Cross? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:57, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I didn’t make my point clear enough. The composition is fine for me, just the altogether resolution leaves too few pixels for the main object. If this had 16 or 20 megapixels it would be fine. At this low resolution on the main object, the sharpening effects are too harsh for me. --Kreuzschnabel 07:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - OK, that's a perfectly sensible point of view. Thanks for explaining. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:06, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Kreuzschnabel. INeverCry 07:05, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Support I hear you, Kreuzschnabel, but mood and composition are just too good not to support. -- Martin Falbisoner 08:27, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Sorry, the low res bothers me too much, it makes the statue, pole and plants look slightly artificial at full size. w.carter-Talk 08:58, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Technical issues aside, I don't think the composition works. The horizontals don't work well with the the strong vertical of the subject. Perhaps something tighter on the statue might have worked? Daniel Case (talk) 05:15, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Question - In what way does the composition not work for you? I don't really understand what you mean. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:44, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek: As I said, there are very strong horizontals in this image, given a sense of motion by being mostly from a river and clouds. And in the middle of them is this vertical pillar and statue, like a limb fallen into the river. The effect to me is more disruptive than dynamic. Daniel Case (talk) 04:09, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
- I appreciate your explaining, because that's not something I think of when looking at visual art. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:11, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek: As I said, there are very strong horizontals in this image, given a sense of motion by being mostly from a river and clouds. And in the middle of them is this vertical pillar and statue, like a limb fallen into the river. The effect to me is more disruptive than dynamic. Daniel Case (talk) 04:09, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - I have to say, I think people are focusing so much on the trees that they're missing the forest, and it's frustrating for me that I see what I consider great art, a composition that really moves me, and most of you are meh about it. I've been on the other side of this in other nominations, but I'm truly surprised by the opposition to this. And it's not that I'm saying you lack reasons: obviously, you do and have given them. But what about the poetry and the meaning? That's not enough? Is this truly so low-quality technically that you can't look at this and see something that speaks to you in an intense way? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:10, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I can’t help remembering that someone in here made a remark some time ago going like, "Different people respond differently to different photos" ;-) --Kreuzschnabel 10:38, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - Of course. But that doesn't mean I can't be frustrated, and the amount of opposition is very surprising to me. I frankly didn't really anticipate any reason for opposition. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:47, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I can’t help remembering that someone in here made a remark some time ago going like, "Different people respond differently to different photos" ;-) --Kreuzschnabel 10:38, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Support In this case the result surpass the qualities issues, at least for me. Visually very successful, could be the cover of something... Christian Ferrer (talk) 09:17, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose I was to support, because I find this picture beautiful in many aspects: light, composition, subject, mood... But the sharpening white line around the whole main subject, even visible at thumbnail, is a no-go for me. I'm sorry .--Jebulon (talk) 09:49, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- I don't see the sharpening line and would never have nominated the photo if I could see it, but I did notice several small dust spots above the sculpture's arm this time. I'm going to withdraw, because obviously, this photo has no chance of being featured. I guess my eye for technical issues still needs a lot more development, even if I end up feeling the same way about photographs' overall quality as works of art in the end. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:12, 1 August 2016 (UTC) I withdraw my nomination