File talk:Consolidated B-24J Liberators under construction at the Consolidated-Vultee plant in San Diego, CA, 1944.jpg

Copyright and Use

A higher quality image was found on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/49487266@N07/5019364020

Based on the San Diego Air and Space Museum's Image Collection site: https://sandiegoairandspace.org/collection/image-collection

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{{Q: May I use San Diego Air & Space Museum (SDASM) images/film…

3. ... on an educational web site? A. Yes. SDASM images/film are available for use, free of charge, in non-commercial academic work. Use must credit San Diego Air & Space Museum.

Based on this note, this image should be classified as Fair Use for educational purposes. If anyone has any concerns or questions regarding the copyright of this image, please feel free to post or change status. -Signaleer (talk) 14:10, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Signaleer: Marking an image as Fair Use on Commons causes it to be automatically tagged for speedy deletion; fair use is not allowed on Commons. If you feel that the {{PD-SDASM}} tag is illegitimate, please consider nominating the template for deletion rather than changing the individual status of photos from SDASM. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣{{ ♠}} 17:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@King of Hearts: I understand that the Wiki Commons does not allow fair use images but based on the guidance on the SDASM site, it appears that this image would be classified as "fair use" for educational purposes noted in item (3). I'm not comfortable enough to make that call, hence I created a discussion. -Signaleer (talk) 17:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Usually, "No known copyright restrictions" means that the work is PD by law (either USGov or expired), rather than released to the public domain by its copyright holder. So for these works, it doesn't matter what SDASM's terms and conditions say, we don't have to respect them for mere scans of PD works. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Identification?

Is this Willow Run (Michigan, Ford), or is it San Diego (California, Consolidated-Vultee)? Seems confused at present, but it can't be both. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2021 (UTC)