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Columbus (ship) build date before or 1874

Our ship supposedly built 1876. Is this the same ship? See reference here. It says John C. Blethen commanded the Columbus for five years (1874-1879 est.), on sailings from New York to San Francisco four times. He owned or sailed a line of sailing ships, some built at Newburyport, Mass and Kennebunk, Maine, and acquired others by purchase.

Also see (for an earlier or the same ship) The Clipper Ship Era by Arthur Hamilton Clark, Chapter 3 it says here "The leading ship-builder at Newburyport was John Currier, Jr., who from 1831 to 1843 built the ships Brenda, Republic, Oberlin, St. Clair, Leonore, and Columbus for the Black Ball Line,". "After the Black Ball Line passed into the hands of Captain Charles H. Marshall in 1836, the Columbus, Oxford, Cambridge, New York, England, Yorkshire, Fidelia, Isaac Wright, Isaac Webb, the third Manhattan, Montezuma, Alexander Marshall, Great Western, and Harvest Queen were gradually added to the fleet.", and "The racing was fast and furious. In 1837 a match was made between the Black Ball liner Columbus, 597 tons, Captain De Peyster, and the Sheridan, Captain Russell, of the Dramatic Line, then on her first voyage, for a stake of $10,000 a side, from New York to Liverpool, play or pay. The Sheridan, though only 895 tons, carried a crew of forty picked men before the mast, with regular pay of $25 a month, and the promise of a bonus of $50 each, provided their ship won the race. The ships sailed together from New York on Thursday, February 2, 1837, and the Columbus won the race in sixteen days, followed two days later by the Sheridan. This is the first ocean match across the Atlantic of which any record has been preserved, though, of course, there had been many informal races long before.". Same ship ? that puts it as built between 1831 to 1837, or 1836 to 1837 if it was added to the fleet as a new build.

The Columbus built 1874, bought by the Russian Navy in 1878 has no connection with this vessel -Broichmore (talk) 16:06, 11 October 2018 (UTC)