File talk:Lesser coat of arms of Copenhagen.svg

"Inaccuracies"

"No exact reference, Blazoning contradicts, waves etc...."

What is that supposed to mean? It's based on existing images of the arms (see category). - Ssolbergj (talk) 17:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello Ssolbergj, sorry for my late answer. Do you know the blazoning? If yes, where is the blazoning of this CoA? There are some inconsistency to the German article (but also without reference). And the first thing what I see on all your CoA, these seams a bit "unheraldic", because the middle European heraldic don't use shadow or shades (gradients...) in the "escutcheon". The same is with the File:National Coat of arms of Liechtenstein.svg, there is also definitely a inconsistency the known blazoning. So I will also revert this repeated revert. Sorry but you create fantasy coat of arms, but unfortunately in very good quality. -- πϵρήλιο ℗ 13:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

"No exact reference, Blazoning contradicts, waves etc...." still doesn't make any sense. The elements are based on other renditions of this coat of arms, as seen in the category. "middle European heraldic don't use shadow or shades". That's your impression of what's common, not a rule. What's more, I don't agree. And there are no such rules regarding technique in heraldry. It's not a fantasy coat of arms, it's a valid heraldic depiction of copenhagen's arms (when the full compartment has been added). "There are some inconsistency to the German article" What do you mean by that? - Ssolbergj (talk) 15:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

(I've moved the latter part discussion from my talk page.) - Ssolbergj (talk) 15:58, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you are not precise enough, then I'll explain it more concrete: Do you know what is a blazoning? A blazoning can never be in contradiction to the coa. That means it does not matter what you have for a pictorial reference. The blazoning reads (from the German article, translated) "natural waves... red towers..." as also be shown in the pictorial reference (Do you know what means tincture? Unfortunately there is no reference for this. Any information for this would be very helpful...) I mean only you must explicitly specify a reference, for all that is very unusual (because you made your own replica)! Yes we can not made replica of coat of arms from countries, from which we do not know the heraldic conditions (for example what you say "And there are no such rules regarding technique in heraldry" is not true for example Germany, there is such rule. I can't speak . for the neighboring country Denmark). Do you know the difference between a logo and a coa?! (I see there is a logo whit 3 waves...) -- πϵρήλιο ℗ 19:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I haven't seen the original danish blazon, because it's not on wikipedia at least. Well, if it includes "red towers" and "natural waves", then I don't see any problem with the towers or the waves as they are drawn in this image; this way of displaying water in heraldry is conventional. "Yes we can not made replica of coat of arms from countries, from which we do not know the heraldic conditions" So you are suggesting that one cannot draw one's own rendition of a blazon? I guess it's you who needs to be given lectures about how logos are different from coats of arms. At least you needn't give lectures to me about the basics of heraldry. The number of waves in the logo is utterly irrelevant, as the conventions of heraldry indicate and the other files in this category show. Unless you provide the blazon and explicitly say how this image contradicts it, I'll remove your tag. - Ssolbergj (talk) 21:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I see an objective discussion is not possible. You are concerned a self-definition of heraldry. You are also completely contradictory: You say you don't have a Blazon but you say you are drawing this Coa after a heraldic Blazon. I do not want you too even have to really explain all the details, which means Heraldry and Blazon. I've not sayed the number of waves is relevant. I've only seen you made a style like a logo... Again for facts:

• your towers are not red
• you waves are not natural (your explaining however that this heraldric is not referring, only shows again that you do not understand heraldry)

-- πϵρήλιο ℗ 14:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Trying to be offensive doesn't get you anywhere. Please post the whole blazon, with a reference that isn't wikipedia. - Ssolbergj (talk) 05:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Your claim was "Blazoning contradicts", so the onus is on you to provide real and cited evidence that backs it up. If you don't, I'll soon remove your tag~. - Ssolbergj (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2012 (UTC)