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This flag is heavily wrong, in many ways.

Problems

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1. Chile supports new negotiations

But it does not support "old" negotiations (unlike Brazil. Old = Serbia vs. province of Serbia, under UN Resolution 1244 framework). So it it is neutral/ambiguous/taking its time, or khaki

2. Portugal doesn't want to recognize Kosovo and is worried, which makes it not neutral - but orange

Yet it's prime minister, who is responsible for implementing foreign policy, is on record saying that he will get Portugal to recognize Kosovo in due time. This makes its position ambiguous/kaing its time, or khaki

3. Libya openly declared against the unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo and won't recognize it.

No one has sourced it to any other source except Foreign Ministry of Serbia and Serbian State Television. In absence of verification, we can't change its designation from ambiguous/taking its time/concerned for unilateral moves/calling on "old" negotiations, or orange

4. Uruguay openly declared against independence of Kosovo and supports new negotiations.

It has not as of 23 April 2008. We can only source unnamed sources explaining why it has not recognized yet (somethign about3 pillars of recognition). This is clearly a case of ambiguous/taking it's time, or khaki

5. There is no statement yet from Tunisia, which makes it not even neutral.

Indeed, corrected to grey.

6. Mali has expressed grave worry over Kosovo independence, like China, which makes it orange.

Indeed, corrected to orange.

7. Iran has expressed grave concern over the act - making it orange

We don't have any statements from Iran from non-Serbian sources that go beyond carefully studying this weird problem - ambiguous position, khaki. If a non-Serbia source can be found that supports orange, it will be adjusted accordingly.

8. Indonesia openly declared against Kosovo independence and called for new negotiations.

It has done no such thing. It's foreign ministry's webpage still contains as its last traffic on the subject its neutral statement of 18 February 2008, but calling for negotiations. Therefore, orange.

9. Bosnia and Herzegovina won't recognize Kosovo, because one its three constituent nations opposes it and can veto it.

Perhaps, yet as a state, it has not acted, therefore it is delaying recognition and choosing to be ambiguous.. It's a fallacy to extend a disagreeing faction's position to the official position of the government. The government may well not succeed in recognizing Kosovo, if that is its intention, however, it is not on record as opposing the independence, unlike Russia or Cyprus. Therefore, khaki.

10. Iraq openly declared against independence of Kosovo.

There is no evidence of that. Source? It's pronouncements have been conservative, therefore khaki.

11. Greece openly called for new negotiations.

But not under the old framework, and its Foreign Minister has several times said now that the decision to recognize or not recognize has not been made yet. Therefore, khaki.

I know you wanted to be exclusive on the matter, but you have conducted some double standards - as all the "neutral ones" who obviously see a problem with recognition of Kosovo independence like India or Mexico, you have also included that Montenegro intends to recognize Kosovo, when Montenegro made never ever such a statement, and when the majority of Czech political representatives opposes it.

Mexico and India are examples of countries which have issued very careful, crafted official statements on their Foreign Ministry websites, essentially suspending judgement. Macedonia, Montenegro, Czech Republic are all leaning to recognition, because they wish to participate in a unified EU position, and Topolanek, CR Prime Minister openly says that it will be lesser evil to recognize than not to recognize and that recognition will take place. The Foreign Minister says that the agreement to do so has been reached and implementation will follow the elections in Serbia in May. Macedonia officially supports the Ahtisaari Plan, which Kosovo is implementing and which is synonymous with supervised independence. It is negotiating its border with Kosovo -- recognition of Kosovo is imminent here. Montenegro will recognize when it is convenient for it to do so, and we have indications from Prime Minister of Kosovo, that it's a done deal; the two are neighbors. It would be misleading to not color these three countries light blue. --Mareklug talk 13:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]