File talk:Football4.png

Rugby league

The 2006 version of this image included rugby league. It has been replaced by a second image of rugby union (every other sport gets only one). Rugby union is also referred to far less frequently as 'football' than rugby league. Can this be fixed please?--Gibson Flying V (talk) 07:08, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, the image was altered to include a woman's match in one of the sports, as all the images were of men's sports. The free-to-use image that I found fitted in best to the position of the rugby league part of the image. I also don't think that the rugby league image was particularly definably rugby league over another form of rugby (it wasn't of a 'play-the-ball' restart, for example). Finally, there are plenty of codes of football not included here eg Gaelic Football, Canadian Football. If someone wants to update the image to include rugby league again then that's a good idea, but I think that keeping the women's sport in is also useful, and more important than having the two rugbies. --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 17:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I think that by removing a sport commonly referred to as football you're lessening the image's worth as being descriptive of that word. Don't lose sight of the name of the image and the article it's used in.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 21:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I see your point, but I don't agree - the image is simply illustrative of some forms of football, rather than all forms. I think that countering Wikipedia's Wikipedia's systemic bias is equally important on a project which is loosing editors. But undo if you want; I don't really care, I just thought that it might be better. --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 09:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

A case could certainly be made for the presence of systemic bias in Wikipedia's treatment of the two rugby codes. Besides, the 2nd rugby union image is also the only one that's squished up and horrible-looking :P I don't know how to undo it. Could you help?--Gibson Flying V (talk) 03:12, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Obviously the union image should've been the one replaced. Not as obvious is how to fix it, perhaps just get the old image and re-upload it - which needs a registered user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.125.138 (talk • contribs)

Text above this point copy&pasted from en:File talk:Football4.png. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 20:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

And the following copy&pasted from en:User talk:RHaworth#File:Football4.png. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 14:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi. There was consensus on the talk page of the above file to go back to the previous version of it, but no one knew how. Not sure if you're able to view it now coz it appears to be deleted. But could you revert to the previous version that doesn't have that squished up image in the bottom right corner?--Gibson Flying V (talk) 00:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but you only partially addressed the problems brought up on the talk page. You could have killed two birds with one stone by going back to the original version.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 20:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "No one knew how"! If you go the right place, ie. commons:file:Football4.png you will see revert links. But I agree with Super Nintendo Chalmers - it is more important to show that women also play football. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:35, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

So you're happy with rugby union having two images and rugby league having zero on a file that is the lead image of the article entitled Football? I'm afraid that's quite difficult to understand. There must be other better ways to get a female image in there.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• Please explain how an ignorant person like me is expected to tell that the image at bottom left in today's version is rugby league and not rugby union. I would still like to see one pic of women. Suggestions: replace the image of women playing rugby union with one of women playing rugby league - if that happens. Or, replace the immage of the scrummage with a pic of rugby league. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 14:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • I like your second suggestion but I don't know how to edit this image. You can save the attitude for someone else though. Thanks.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 07:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)