File talk:Flag of the People's Republic of China.svg

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Colors Sample Flag Description Comments
Red #9E2B2D Converted from XYZ, as stated in the government GB. (material: fiber) Because the GB is for making real flags, so we don't have to follow it. (Completely too dim on computer display)
Yellow #BCAC00
Red #B62D33 Converted from XYZ, as stated in the GB as above, but this is for silks.
Yellow #B59820
Red #A31B1F converted from XYZ, as stated in the GB as above, but this is for cottons.
Yellow #BC9503
Red #FF0000 Based on the web versions, which are found on PRC Government website, the Hong Kong Government website, etc. 1, 2, and 3. Since the Government has not stated any specific web colors, so we have to use the colors shown on reliable websites, such as the government and authority websites. As you can see the colors on the PRC and HK Gov website are approximately shown as HTML #FF0000 and #FFFF00. Moreover, the real flags, such as 1, 2, and 3, are also approximately seen as HTML #FF0000 and #FFFF00.
Yellow #FFFF00
Red #DE2910 based on this webpage. The current color used on Wikipedia
Yellow #FFDE00
Red #E01500
Yellow #FFD400

Notes of Restoration[edit]

There is no such state named "China" in the world, there exist only two states with "China" in their names: "People's Republic of China" (whose capital currently resides in Beijing) and "Republic of China" (whose capital currently resides in Taipei). Although the former is commonly referred as "China", and the latter is now commonly referred as "Taiwan", these abbreviations are never formal; nor are them appropriate for a reliable and trusted encyclopedia. Instead, they stir up disputes among people from both sides (in both PRC and ROC, or say in both Mainland China and Taiwan). Wikipedia should be sensitive to these matters and carefully maintain NPOV by avoiding referring PRC as China and ROC as Taiwan whenever possible. I think that Image:Flag of Peoples Republic of China.svg should be restored. --roc (talk at zh) 06:46, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pantone colours[edit]

revert: Pantone colors are used for making real flags, not suitable for showing on the Web, some monitors especially LCDs can't show them correctly

This is not true, since when using Pantone colours here they are converted to hexadecimal (RGB) values. Pantone itself has provided these corresponding values in order to use Pantone colours in web design as well. They won't cause any more problems on monitors than other RGB shades would do, unless we are talking about monitors only capable of showing 256 colours or less, which will have problems everywhere these days. Was there any other reason for the revert? –Vzb83 17:46, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Vzb83, but only support their use if a source more reputable than vexilla-mundi.com is found. ¦ Reisio 20:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
According to FOTW, the flag institute recommends 032 C for red and 109 C for yellow when there is no official definition available. 109 C is extremely close to Vexilla mundi's recommendation but 032 C is somewhat lighter. Naturally it would be wonderful to find any official or even unofficial recommendation for the colours by the Chinese government. Meanwhile, I'd go with the Flag Institute's recommendations since it's a very reliable source. –Vzb83 11:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me. :) That's at least a source...vexilla-mundi.com doesn't care about citing sources. :/ ¦ Reisio 12:27, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will not revert it anymore, after I talked to a member of FOTW. About the reason of why I reverted you image, I think you do not get my point, because my English is very poor and I can not describe it clearly - you will understand it if you use a LCD monitor that is very common, not professional one, and of course, it can show in 32bit "true color".
If you could read Chinese, you would see argues on several Chinese flag website about images does not looks correct that posted by LCD monitor users from Taiwan.--Kibinsky 09:04, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This flag svg format turns visually pink on some monitors[edit]

69.214.107.84 05:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i am an artist who is intersted in having some custom flags made in china. does anyone know where i can find the official pantone color of the people's republic of china flag. particularly the communist red.

thanks, john parkerjohn@hotmail.com

If there were an official pantone color, we would almost certainly have it referenced here. See previous section. ¦ Reisio (talk) 02:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am not certain of the colors either, but I will try and ask around. The only thing I know is that the construction sheets are online. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 23:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right Color: Red[edit]

At first, please see Flags by H.K.Gov.It's red.

Then please see the last photo at Flags by PRC Gov, we can see the flag is red, too.(Don't look at the first picture --- it's not right color).

At last please look at the National Emblem by PRC Gov, it's red too.

So, I changed it to red..Xiamipi (talk) 01:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That reversion is intolerable as it breaks the consensus making incoherent a huge number of another images, like naval, party, coa, etc.
Hi User:Xiamipi! The colours #FFDE00 and #DE2910 were agreed upon through concensus to adhere to this webpage specifically dedicated to the PRC flag on the Central People's Government's official website. I have no doubt that other websites, such as the Hong Kong Government's website or non-government websites such as Flags of the World, vexillmundi, or the CIA World Factbook will depict the PRC flag (or any other nations flag) with different shades of colour, however I think (and through concensus, other editors also think) that the gov.cn page should be the basis of which shades are to be chosen here on Commons as it is the more authoritative. Regarding this picture, it is a photograph of a real physical flag, which is different from a computer graphic (which is of one shade being luminescent itself) as it is reflective of sunlight or other artificial lights with its apparent shade being drastically different under different angles and luminosities. Lastly, in regards to the emblem on gov.cn, that is another subject matter in that (to the best of my knowledge) there is currently no specification of the emblem having the same shade of colour as that of the national flag. Furthermore, the emblem you have chosen is displayed at the top left corner of the website, I would suggest that one should try to avoid using these navigational designs as a basis for creating a local file here at Commons, as these graphics tend to change with different webpage designs and webmasters, there main goal seems to be more decorative (perhaps to create an imposing and professional look), and often the "accuracy" is sacrificed. Compare the two emblems within view on this page, the top left one that you chose as evidence is quite different from the one depicted on the page specifically dedicated to the PRC national emblem. I have therefore reverted the changes. --Shibo77 02:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To Shibo77: Pls see http://english.gov.cn/2005-08/16/content_23394.htm and http://www.chinaflag.org.cn/page/gqzs/index.html. The current "red color" is completely wrong. Thank you. Andyso (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I support you Xiamipi. The current colors is just not proper. Andyso (talk) 07:48, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category[edit]

{{Editprotect}} Add Category:SVG flags - aspect ratio of 3:2. --Anime Addict AA (talk) 01:18, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just do it. There is no protection. – Kwj2772 (msg) 09:35, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Red[edit]

The flag color is red. I am so confused why people here still using a wrong color,that is laughable. Red is the most used, when you go to China, you'd see only red flag, never see the color used on Wikipedia. Even the government has stated the color of the flag is red...Andyso (talk) 19:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

zh:WP:互助客栈/其他/存档/2008年2月#由中华人民共和国国旗的颜色说开…… User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 20:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
http://english.gov.cn/2005-08/16/content_23394.htm is also an official government web site. Andyso (talk) 05:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, the red color stated by Hong Kong (for the regional flag) is also #ff0000. Andyso (talk) 05:58, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And the document we used are from the Chinese Government (GB). It says at http://www.protocol.gov.hk/flags/eng/r_flag/spec.html the for the Hong Kong flag has the same red color as the national flag and the Chinese Government with a GB to determine the flag red color. That is what we are using. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 06:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, you can't read Chinese? Andyso (talk) 06:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What he said on Chinese Wikipedia, is the colors stated in the document (GB) are completely too dim. Then he recommended us to take the colors as shown on here, that is what colors you are using. But this is not the only flag sample on China Government web site. You should see this, also on the government web site. Moreover, I am going to show you the real flags Andyso (talk) 06:20, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As you can see the colors still bright without sunlight (cloudy weather). Andyso (talk) 06:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The GB specifications from the Government is for manufacturing REAL FLAGS, so we don't have to follow it. According to the Hong Kong's Protocol website, the CMYK of both the national flag and HK regional flag is '0-100-100-0' (red color), which is equivalent to HTML #FF0000. Based on the China government web site (Gov.cn) and the official organization of national flag (Chinaflag.org.cn), the red color used there is also #FF0000 while the yellow color used is #FFFF00. Here we can conclude the most proper colors as the following table:
Color Sample HTML CMYK RGB HSB Usage
Red #FF0000 0-100-100-0 255,0,0 0,100,100 National flag, Hong Kong flag, also PLA flags (Emblem of PRC is not necessary to have the same red color of the flag)
Yellow #FFFF00 0-0-100-0 255,255,0 60,100,100 National flag, as well as the PLA flags.
Andyso (talk) 08:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can read Chinese and I have the actual GB on my computer. With a few exceptions (such as Canada, Australia and Switzerland) we GO for the real color of flags, such as Pantone, in our images here. Since the Chinese Government did not specific web colors (sure, they use some, but no legal text), we went to the GB and use the colors from there. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 13:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The colors you are now using are from here, not from the GB. As you can see most flagss on the web and the real flags (see my photos above) are using #FF0000 and #FFFF00, so I think that is necessary to modify the colors. Andyso 14:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We already decided on the colors years ago, and while your points are valid, they decided to pick the colors the way that they did (from looking at the GB, they used the lightest colors allowable by it). User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 15:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The current colors are not from the GB...pls go thru what I said above Andyso 16:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I saw, but this is what consensus decided years ago (if you can see the above sections, the ZH link and also the upload history). User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 16:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think that is not a righteous consensus, what can I do? I think the colors using are not proper, what can I do? I've found lots of proof to show the correct colors...and I can't even make change on that now! Andyso 16:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Because we gone through this for years. I pointed to other native Chinese speakers about this discussion so it has a wider audience. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 16:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That means I can't even express my opinion. Okay, fine, Wikipedia has died. Andyso 16:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You can express the opinion, and by uploading the second version on here, you have done so. But we are also a consensus building project. No one just picked the colors and stopped for lunch; it took years and cross project discussions to even figure it out. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 16:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just create a voting for deciding which version is more proper. Andyso 16:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Small stars missing[edit]

This file shown without small stars

This page http://curran.github.io/screencasts/introToAngular/exampleViewer/#/27 displays this flag (the SVG file itself), and the small stars are not shown.
To be precise: The small stars are not shown for widths <155px and the big star is not shown for widths <52px.
The other versions don't have this issue, so it should be regarded a mistake in the current version (20:36, 22 May 2012).
mate2code 11:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be something in the Firefox SVG renderer (it does not happen with IE) and is due to the large coordinates used in the current version of this file. The unit star defined in the defs section is a one million pixels large polygon that is scaled down. Reducing the coordinates of the pentagon directly and removing the scale fixes it (I also tidied the rest of the code):
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" width="900" height="600" viewBox="0 0 30 20">
<defs>
<path id="s" d="M0,-1 0.587785,0.809017 -0.951057,-0.309017H0.951057L-0.587785,0.809017z" fill="#ffde00"/>
</defs>
<rect width="30" height="20" fill="#de2910"/>
<use xlink:href="#s" transform="translate(5,5) scale(3)"/>
<use xlink:href="#s" transform="translate(10,2) rotate(23.036243)"/>
<use xlink:href="#s" transform="translate(12,4) rotate(45.869898)"/>
<use xlink:href="#s" transform="translate(12,7) rotate(69.945396)"/>
<use xlink:href="#s" transform="translate(10,9) rotate(20.659808)"/>
</svg>
Should an edit request be raised to replace the file? SiBr4 (talk) 20:20, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, Kosovo had the same problem; I just changed that file. SiBr4 (talk) 15:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

{{Editprotected}} Can an admin please do a reupload of this file using the code I gave? This fixes the problem of the stars not rendering at small sizes, as described above. SiBr4 (talk) 15:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:15, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

edit request[edit]

{{Edit request}} can someone please restore the 19:28, 7 February 2011 version of the flag because we cannot use original resarch on the colours, even the FILE ITSELF describes in that colour, i know there was one discussion about it in chinese version of wikipedia a decade ago which is now outdated as consensus or atleast open for a new one, there is several earlier sources mentioned and is the most common used. if the user does not make the request can someone please start a rfc after all a new fresh consensus is needed instead of the frozen 8 year old one --Dannis243 (talk) 12:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

19:28, 7 February 2011 version of the flag
 Not done, There is no consensus about the change, and we already have a version with proposed colors. Please feel free to start a discussion on Wikipedia to replace the file in the article with the other file. --Jarekt (talk) 03:40, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Colours[edit]

Not sure if there was a consensus on the Chinese Wikipedia or elsewhere, but I would like to point out that Wikipedia tends to use pantone colours for its flags. For example, my physical flag of Canada does not match with the version shown in the article flag of Canada, and the same is true for my flag of Hong Kong. I assumed the reason was because the actual colours are way too bright and don't display well on certain screens and settings, but I haven't seen any opposition to the recent change on this file talk page (unlike previous attempts). I personally do not care which shades are used, but it does makes the flag of China stand out from the rest of the flags used on Wikipedia. CentreLeftRight ✉ 04:41, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with what you said on all points. I think there should've been consensus before changing the colors. LittleCuteSuit (talk) 01:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The colours were extracted from the "Standard version of national flag image for online usage" released by the Chinese government (although it did not explicitly state the colour codes). They are not for physical flags.--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 15:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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