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The coloration of this map is suboptimal

The color scheme of this map (and the related maps) is not optimal. It is much to dark. I especially find the purple dark shading of the sea problematic. The overall quality is really fine but the map could be much improved if the colors were lighter. --Furfur (talk) 11:26, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

(Please comment on this!)

False map

Much more important than the color of the Baltic Sea is the following problem:

Im Vertrag von Melnosee (d:Q693964) von 1422 wurde ein Küstenabschnitt von 35 km Breite 20 km nördlich von Memel endgültig dem Großfürstentum Litauen zugesprochen und der Ordensstaat zerfiel in zwei Teile. Hier sieht es so aus dass in den 35 Kilometern der Deutsche Orden einfach einen besonders kleinen durchgehenden Streifen hatte und das Großfürstentum Litauen wie auch vor 1422 keinen Zugang zur Ostsee hatte. Das stimmt nicht: es gab nicht einen "nur schmalen Küstenstreifen" des Deutschen Ordens nördlich von Nemirseta, sondern gar keinen.

In the Treaty of Melnosee (d:Q693964) of 1422, a coastal section 35 km wide 20 km north of Memel was finally awarded to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the state of the Teutonic Order was split into two parts. Here it appears that in the 35 kilometers the Teutonic Order simply had a particularly small continuous strip and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, as before 1422, had no access to the Baltic Sea. That's not true: there wasn't just a "narrow coastal strip" of the Teutonic Order north of Nemirseta, but none at all.

--ThomasPusch (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2024 (UTC)