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the image has been tampered with ("corrected") and then reverted. The point of this image is to represent Huntington's view as published in 1996. It can only be "corrected" if it misrepresents this, it cannot and should not be "corrected" in an attempt to improve upon Huntington's publication. What can be done though is using a better colour scheme to depict said view. Also, at the moment the "lone" countries are labelled "Buddhist": this cannot have been in the original, most of them are in fact Buddhist, but there are also Albania and Israel, now labelled "Buddhist", and I do not think that this is what was in Huntington's book. --Dbachmann (talk) 14:16, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have recovered the scan of the original map from archive.org[1] Two things:

  • the current map is accurate except for Albania and Israel, which are depicted as "Buddhist" for some reason. The orignal map shows them as "Muslim". There are no "lone" countries on the map, all boundaries are clear-cut, except for India, which is shown as overlapping "Hindu/Muslim"
  • the original map was for b/w publication. There is no point in trying to reproduce the striation patterns as this map weirdly does (except for Japan, which is shown in green instead of 'vertically striped'). Just pick nine colours instead of randomly showing six blocks in colour, two in striation, and keeping the original 'white' for Buddhism.

--Dbachmann (talk) 15:21, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, I now realize that Albania is supposed to be marked, correctly, as "Muslim", but it is too small for the pattern to be recognizable. Another reason to pick colours instead of patterns to show "Muslim" and "Hindu". --Dbachmann (talk) 15:22, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

actually, it seems this revision was the best yet; although it was reverted with the summary "do not try to improve Huntington", it did not. It indicated the "lone countries" identified by Huntington in his text, and as such was still an accurate representation of Huntington's 1996 publication. --Dbachmann (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake in Ukraine[edit]

Doesn't Huntington specify that the civ line between West and Orthodox cuts through Ukraine and Belarus? It doesn't on this map, despite Huntington dedicating pages to explaining why Ukraine is a "cleft country". --Liberivore (talk) 10:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Map 1.3" on pages 26-27 of the book shows Belarus and Ukraine on the Orthodox side of the line (this map mainly follows national borders, with some unsystematic exceptions mainly south of the Tropic of Cancer). It's the local maps on p. 159 and p. 166 that split the Ukraine... AnonMoos (talk) 05:36, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Need to assign different color to different "Civilization"[edit]

Hindu and Buddhist culture should be assigned colors like Saffron and Yellow to make map more distinct. Too much white in there is confusing. JayB91 (talk) 20:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnia and Herzegovina[edit]

BiH is currently (July 25, 2018) not Orthodox but Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic (majority). --MyAnyName123 (talk) 10:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency[edit]

Religions and regional terms should never be mixed. If Western civilization is designated as such, there is absolutely no place for designating e.g. Orthodox world outside of it because there are Orthodox believers in USA and Canada and Europe as well. --MyAnyName123 (talk) 10:41, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]