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 Scope changed from 1929 Financial crisis to Great Depression . User:Patriot8790 2010-06-10 19:54:51
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 Support This photograph, Migrant Mother by Dorothea Lange, is an iconic image of the Great Depression. It even has been called the "ultimate" photo of the Depression Era (see en:Florence Owens Thompson). It isn't geocoded, but I think we could claim an exception for it—after all, the people photographied here are homeless persons. If we really want to add a geotag, it could be possible I guess, at least roughly: the photograph was taken inside a pea-picker's camp in Nipomo, California. This is a set of 5 of the 6 images taken by Lange, [1], maybe some topographical clues to be found in for a plausible geotag. --Myrabella (talk) 14:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]- The 1929 is known as an affair concerning banks etc., but it's less well-known that it had strong influence on poor people. Therefore I found this image for the scope very educational at first sight. However, assuming that the story in en: is right, the photo is more an early example of tabloid journalism. Therefore I
 Oppose. --Ikar.us (talk) 08:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I'm, as Ikar.us, not convinced that this is the best image to illustrate the current scope. An image has to be able to convey the scope without a caption if possible. This is not the case here. For those visitors who are not familiar with this photograph, the story is not obviously told IMO. Lycaon (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Scope changed from Great Depression to Migrant Mother (1936), by Dorothea Lange . User:Patriot8790 2010-06-14 11:50
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Support While acknowledging Ikar.us' comment, I support under the new scope. Geolocation could IMO be exempted for this historical image though an attempt would be great. Lycaon (talk) 13:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Aknowledged too. Would you allow me an answer? Personally, I don't find that this picture humilates the persons photographied here. They are shown in their dignity, and that image has often been compared to the "Madonna" representations in art. The deep impact of the photograph is based on its capacity to show the strength and need of migrant workers. About the ethical concern you raise—that honours you— I would highlight the fact that one of the benefits of this image is that "within days [after its publication], the pea-picker camp received 20,000 pounds of food from the federal government." and more widely that it helped to promote the FSA aid program towards poor farmers, so it reached its collective goal. About individuals, "I can't get a penny out of it", said F. L. Thompson years after. But because she was famous by this photograph, "Thompson was hospitalized and her family appealed for financial help in late August 1983. By September, the family had collected $25,000 in donations to pay for her medical care." She died, but will remain honored as "FLORENCE LEONA THOMPSON Migrant Mother – A Legend of the Strength of American Motherhood.", as engraved on her gravestone—thanks to this photo. Even if it wasn't the case, I will end saying that controversial photos can be great photos too. --Myrabella (talk) 16:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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