Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Wfm area51 map en.png

Image:Wfm area51 map en.png - not featured

•  Info created by User:Finlay McWalter - uploaded by User:Finlay McWalter - nominated by Gnangarra
•  Support The map was nominated and promoted as Commons:Quality Images, This map is exceptional and deserves to be FP --Gnangarra 00:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Oppose it doesn't cover that big of an area. All it shows is 3 military bases. Not interesting to me. --15:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC) by Sunshade1 - Roger McLassus 22:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Oppose - it's a map. Very useful, but so is a car (see below). DirkvdM 17:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Support This map is very well done. I cannot see any reason for not featuring it. Roger McLassus 22:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Oppose All it shows is 3 military bases, well done, but not that big an area. Oppose unless someone can convince me otherwise --Digon3 01:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Support To DirkvdM: We've had maps (and diagrams) as featured pictures before. Truth is, FP should probably include a lot more useful, informative, and well-crafted maps like this, and a lot fewer insects and sunsets. To Sunshade1: It shows a lot more than 3 military bases! I can see you've never drawn a map for Wikipedia before. We've got county and state boundaries, topographic features, roads, cities and towns, a locator map, a detailed legend, a scale... The map is very easy to read and nicely laid out. And as for interest – well, it would be of interest if only for Area 51 alone. This is a major arena of US federal government activity. The only thing I don't see on here is a compass rose; otherwise this is a Cadillac-class map. QuartierLatin1968 02:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

comment Something I didnt mention earlier because I didnt know at the time of nomination is its Featured on en.Wikipedia. The reasoning behind nominating this map compared to many others is this one has such a significantly detailed legend/key. The description on the image page explains why certain details are there and other information is omitted. Gnangarra 07:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

If it is a good example of how a map should be made, which can be used by others as a template to make more maps, then I would agree. But the legend isn't very detailed at all. Most )commercial) maps show many more features. The reason is there aren't that many features in that area (despite the size). A map of a place that has many differnt landscapes in a limited area, would make more sense, such as is the case for many areas in New Zealand, for example. DirkvdM 10:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Just so I understand you right, you don't believe that any map of this region could be FP quality, because "there aren't that many features in that area"? QuartierLatin1968 00:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

But this isnt a map of topographical features its a map showing military facilities, and associated civillian area. I'm sure NZ doesnt have such an expanse of military facilities. Even if it does they arent where near as notiable as the Mythical area 51. Gnangarra 10:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how that area is mythical (does anyone?) and the map doesn't clarify that either, so that doesn't count. I admit I don't have any experience in mapmaking, so I'm not sure if I should judge maps. Then again, is it only meant for the incrowd or as a pat on the back for the effort? What I meant to say was that one reason a map could qualify as special is that it shows many aspects of map making. But the area is too boring to qualify for that. The presence of a military area is not that special and size doesn't matter. However, it does have Death Valley on it. One of the few areas in the world that are below sea level. But the map doesn't reveal that. The height is indicated, but not quantified in the legend. So the map shows two special features but doesnt reveal that. Big oops. Bad map. DirkvdM 17:04, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I just did a survey on the ref desk and it seems the area is quite well known outside the US. DirkvdM 06:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

•  Oppose Legend letter size is quite small. Legend could be added as text outside the image. --Javierme 15:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Support It's Area 51, US top secret millitary area for those who doesn't know it. -- Lerdsuwa
•  Oppose - no contours, altitudes, etc. - MPF 02:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Support - It's a very nice map, very well done. Very useful for articles on this region. It would be nice if the SVG was available, though I know that the background bitmap wouldn't travel well with it. --Fastfission 19:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Neutral -- It would be useful if the alleged flying saucers were shown;) MartinD 11:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Oppose. Good design, but again SVG would be the suited format. The shaded relief map could be embedded as a bitmap into the SVG, all other elements are probably vectorbased anyway. This is commons, think about translations people! --Dschwen 13:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Oppose not so bad, but should be SVG, this way it's badly editable. --Leclerc 15:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
•  Support -- I think it is an informative piece of material! -- Boereck 09:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
•  Support not SVG - no problem Aotearoa 20:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

7 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:43, 9 September 2006 (UTC)