Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Karhunkierros.jpg

Info "Route of the bear", near kuusamo (Finland). Created, uploaded and nominated by Francisco M. Marzoa
Support Francisco M. Marzoa 20:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice, very nice--Tomascastelazo 01:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support - MPF 15:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Nice picture, but what is special on it? I do not fell that picture can be featured. Romary 15:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral beautiful nature but I agree with Romary, it's not special enough to be featured. eirissa

Comment So... what's "special" in that one? Perhaps this could be a bit sharper, but needless to say that even with that fault I find this one "special" enough, of course. Francisco M. Marzoa 01:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Nice nature indeed, but the composition is boring Simonizer 09:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Why composition is boring? Just to see if I learn something with this. Thanks in advance. 213.4.20.55 10:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC) (That was mine! Francisco M. Marzoa 12:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]
- Comment The Subject, i guess, should be the whirling water. Its placed in the middle of the picture. Its much more interesting when its not centered. When its placed on the upper left for example, then there would be more forest ground on the picture and that gives you more dimension. Another thing is the framing. Especially the trees and the diffuse lights are disturbing the subject to much. Simonizer 12:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment I appretiate your comments, but as in many landscape pictures there's actually no main subject (or the main subject is everything). The two trunks of both big trees at left and right are used as natural frame to contain the whole picture. Thanks by your comments. Francisco M. Marzoa 12:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Quite nice - but nothing more. Roger McLassus 13:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not my cup of tea, looks to arbitrary. Full size looks horrible by the way, like an attempt at sharpening a blurry pic. You do realize that using f/20 doesn't make a whole lot of sense? The maximum sharpness point of your lens is probably closer to f/6! Higher f numbers increase the circle of confusion. --Dschwen 14:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Dschwen, you have it backwards. The higher the f stop the smaller the aperture, the lower the f stop the larger the aperture. The circle of confusion increases as the aperture increases, an f1.4 for example, yields a large aperture and a large circle of confusion and shallow depth of field, an f20 represents a small aperture and therefore a smaller circle of confusion and large depth of field. The rule is the smaller the aperture the larger depth of field and viceversa. Furthermore, most lenses are optimized at f8. An aperture of f20, as in this pic, is one and a half stop past the "nominal" optimal aperture but would not really make a difference on overall sharpness in the picture. If it is blurry it would be more the result of either bad focus o camera movement.--Tomascastelazo 02:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It isn't arbitrary and at full resolution it doesn't look sharp, but neither as bad as a superlative "horrible" I think. BTW it has not been digitally sharpening. On the aperture you're probably right, I was not very careful with that and probably that exposure values were full automatic or stablished for a previous picture and I didn't adjust them. Thanks for the link, it seems to be very interesting, but I still think your spider could look beter with a higher f value!... ;-P. Francisco M. Marzoa 15:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Info I withdraw this also because lack of sharpening. Excuse me for make you loose your time. Francisco M. Marzoa 15:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3 support, 4 oppose, nomination withdrawn → not featured Roger McLassus 17:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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