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• Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds/Passeriformes#Family : Cisticolidae
•  Info created by Budi Santoso Adji - uploaded by Budi Santoso Adji - nominated by Mimihitam -- Mimihitam (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support -- Mimihitam (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment Please don't remove other nominations when you add yours. I assume it was accidental, so be more careful. --Cart (talk) 13:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

  @W.carter that was indeed accidental, and I really apologize for the oversight. Mimihitam (talk) 14:15, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

•  Support A bit noisy, but forgiveable for such a nice shot. I like the composition very much. Cmao20 (talk) 15:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Very impressive capture. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:50, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Low resolution and a bit noisy but extraordinary capture -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Palauenc05 (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Basotxerri (talk) 08:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Ermell (talk) 09:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment I would so like to support this, but it needs TLC to fix halos around the plant, reduce blown highlights if possible, fix noise and improve sharpness. It's never going to be prefect, but it deserves remedial attention - hopefully Budi Santoso Adji there's a RAW version to start from? Then it would come into POTY reckoning. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Those are green stripes, not halos, on this variety of bamboo. Compare with the top branch. --Cart (talk) 16:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• I am talking about halos Cart, not stripes. There is a band of lighter colour surrounding each stem about half the width of the stem. Charlesjsharp (talk) 19:16, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

•  Support. Meiræ 03:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support — Rhododendrites ^talk |  04:21, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 04:42, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 06:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose @Budi Santoso Adji, Mimihitam, W.carter, Cmao20, King of Hearts, Basile Morin, Palauenc05, Ermell, Meiræ, Rhododendrites, Johann Jaritz, and Agnes Monkelbaan: I have already asked for the image quality to be improved, but the photographer is not active here. There is a weakness in third parties nominating images where they have no control over the image they are nominating. We all make mistakes, but nominators should try to verify the accuracy of the subject description before nomination. The birds in this image are incorrectly identified. There are two cisticolas in Indonesia. This is the golden-headed cisticola (Cisticola exilis). Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

  @Charlesjsharp thank you for pointing this out. Shall I change the name of the file then? Mimihitam (talk) 23:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

  I would not be happy if someone changed the file name of any of my images. This is for the photographer only who may challenge my id if they wisħ. This is an obvious error and my id in this instance Basile Morin has been validated by one of Asia's top bird experts after I first checked in one of his field guides, but many identifications of LBJs (Little Brown Jobs) are challenging and third parties should in general not correct identifications. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

• These two species are very similar. For me the wow is about the situation (not the kind of spectacle you see every day). However, it's important yes that the animals are well identified. It might be fixable. Personally, I can't distinguish both (perhaps a species feeding another one ? 🐥😉) -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:38, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

•  Oppose per Charles, and the background is noisy, and the highlights on the birds' chest are a bit too bright. Due to the lack of metadata I cannot tell if this was due to technical constraints on the shot or not. Daniel Case (talk) 02:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support -- Karelj (talk) 12:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose Agree with Daniel Poco a poco (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Nice shot, i can see it in POTY Finale. --Mile (talk) 13:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Question @Mimihitam, Cmao20, King of Hearts, Basile Morin, Palauenc05, Basotxerri, Ermell, Meiræ, Rhododendrites, Johann Jaritz, Agnes Monkelbaan, Karelj, and PetarM: I am very surprised that you are happy to promote an image which is incorrrectly identified. I'd love to know your thinking please. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• @Charlesjsharp: the guidelines allow you to request the renaming of a file. Commons:File renaming#Which files should be renamed? Reason 3: To correct obvious errors in filenames, including misspelled proper nouns, incorrect dates, and misidentified objects or organisms. If you're absolutely sure the species is different, then just rename the file, what's the problem? If you're not sure, then maybe the photographer was right, and all is fine for us. As you can see yesterday I updated the description based on this discussion. I think this way the readers can judge and evaluate fairly what they're looking at. Finding the exact species is sometimes difficult, even for experts. A FP of mine won the 1st prize of WLS France although the species has always been unsure (I contacted high experts for precise identification, but they could not be 100% affirmative). Thus I think a margin of uncertainty is tolerated here. Most of us are photographers, not biologists. As I said above, this image is striking because three juvenile birds are fed by a parent, a rare thing in picture. And to be honest, I don't really care about the exact species, I attach much more importance to the behavior. Zitting cisticola and Cisticola exilis on Google are so similar, frankly it is not a drama. Hope this answers your question. -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Charlesjsharp: I must support Basile Morin's statement. Being a historian of literature, I don't know much about ornithology, hence, I must trust the uploader and/or the nominator. If you can attribute the birds more exactly, I would encourage you to change the file name and the description accordingly. The alternative would be that only ornithologists could evaluate such pictures. --Palauenc05 (talk) 14:40, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

•  Support, and please change the name and description accordingly with an appropriate edit summary. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:22, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 14 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--A.Savin 13:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Animals/Birds/Passeriformes#Family : Cisticolidae