Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:The Holocaust Memorial at the California Palace of the Legion of Honor, San Francisco.jpg

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File:The Holocaust Memorial at the California Palace of the Legion of Honor, San Francisco.jpg, withdrawn[edit]

Voting period ends on 19 Sep 2009 at 19:22:44 (UTC)
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Is there any Holocaust Memorial image featured? Could you please provide a link to the Holocaust Memorial image that is FP? And btw, if we are to talk about similarity, I mean really to talk about similarity, how about dragonflies, flies, butterflies and so on?--Mbz1 (talk) 20:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Holocaust Memorial is certainly a subject worth a FP, but the sun light is too strong for me here. Yann (talk) 11:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment, Yann. As I have explained bellow IMO there should have been something really special to show the place. The rays over the Memorial were special. I also took this image . It is a refraction of the Memorial ia dew drop, which to me was as a refraction of the Memorial in a tear. The thing is that the memorial was built in a rather strange place and some find it an "unexpected intrusion on the view, and an unfriendly reminder to one of the most significant genocides of the 20th century." So let's say I wanted my image also to be "an unfriendly reminder to one of the most significant genocides of the 20th century" to continue with the artist idea. Anyway thanks for the comment versus oppose. It was kind of you! :)--Mbz1 (talk) 19:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That picture is really interesting, much more than the current nomination, IMO. Yann (talk) 19:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment, Yann. I thought about nominating of that other image, but the thing is that without knowing what this image is about, a reader will not be able to understand it IMO. In other words to understand that image a reader will have to read the description and see the other images of the Memorial. There's nothing wrong with this of course, but just another reason to oppose the image. This Memorial is full of symbolism. For example one could find ""Christ-like" figure in the assemblage, reflecting on the Jewishness of Jesus, as well as a woman holding an apple, a reflection on the idea of original sin and the biblical connection between Jews and Christians, and raising the question of this relationship during the Holocaust." With my images I kind of hoped to continue with that symbolism. Looks like I failed :( --Mbz1 (talk) 19:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looking the pictures on the Memorial, I see that there are plenty of possibilities of great symbolic pictures, so please try again. But I agree that many Commons users are not very open to symbolism and feelings. Yann (talk) 14:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
@H005. Yes, the image is overexposed in very few spots, but I hope you do agree that it was all, but impossible to show the rays and the memorial in the same shot with no overexposure. IMO overexposure in this particular image is rather a way to show the memorial in a different light. IMO this image has a great symbolic meaning. It was like the sun and the fog created the memorial over the memorial! I am surprised and dissapointed nobody sees it. You said you could "hardly see the monument". IMO the readers could see everything there is to see - the dead bodies in a shadow and the only man standing in the light. You said you felt blinded. Maybe me as the photographer wanted to create rather strong, and not necessarily pleasant feelings in the people looking at the image. I am glad I succeeded in doing this! This memorial is very special, and IMO a simple good quality shot would not have been good enough to show it. Thank you very much for stating out your opinion about similarity! You are right. There were no similar images ever nominated.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 

Alternative, withdrawn[edit]

 

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