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Södermanland Runic Inscription 113
  • Being the current “housekeeper” of the gallery pages, I like to add my 50 cent ;–). We usually put Adam’s excellent restaurations of old portrait photographs into the Portrait gallery page, i.e. we handle them just like contemporary photos. Per analogy this would mean that we should handle this historical photograph like a modern photograph of that runestone, because it’s a photograph (and not a painting, drawing, etc. which would go into some of the Non-photographic media galleries). So I would put the runestone photo either into the Sculptures#Other gallery or into the Other objects in landscapes gallery … depending on the disputed question whether a runestone is a sculpture or not (for me, it is ;–). --Aristeas (talk) 09:03, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Aye, that's the problem: It's not exactly a sculpture, but it's not exactly not one. This one was atop a burial mound, so maybe it counts as a gravestone.... but does that help us at all? Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:58, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gravestones would usually be considered a type of sculpture, I think, unless they were mere markers. Was the shape of the runestone culturally significant, and did it vary much? By the way, the reason I haven't voted is that I haven't been able to decide how to vote. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:34, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a Swede with some knowledge of our runestones, I'll add a few words. They are almost always erected in honor of someone. (See article Runestone) They are not grave stones, but Viking monuments. The texts on them are variations of "XX erected/carved this stone after/in memory of warrior/son/husband/battle/whatever..." The correct gallery is Monuments and memorials, where dolmens, pyramids, etc. are kept. Now fixed. --Cart (talk) 10:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think this one comes closer to grave marker than most - being believed to have sat atop a burial mound, although it all being dug up mid-19th century by farmers limits knowledge. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many memorials that sits on top of graves, serving dual purposes. From the pyramids up to modern day Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Runestones have also been moved about and repurposed, ever since they were made. Sometimes it's hard to know their original location. For our gallery system, it's fits best in the memorial section. --Cart (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. Also helps keep it with other runestones. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And to answer Ikan's question, the shape is not that significant. They are usually sort of phallic, but it seems they took a good stone with an oblong shape and one relatively flat surface and carved the runes on it. Vikings on the Swedish mainland were carvers, not stonemasons, and the stones are made from hard durable stone. Picture stones are different since the are mostly found on Gotland and made of softer limestone (the bedrock of the island), which is easier to work. They are distinctly phallic in shape. --Cart (talk) 10:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 7 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Basile Morin (talk) 05:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Objects/Sculptures#Monuments and memorials