Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Norderney, Nordsee am Oststrand -- 2016 -- 5167 (bw) - 2.jpg

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• Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Natural#Germany
•  Info all by XRay -- XRay ^talk 08:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support -- XRay ^talk 08:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Comment - This is a very good photo, but there a quite a few dust spots. Do I understand correctly that this was a 20-second exposure? The clouds moved so far in 20 seconds? Anyway, it's really captivating. Fix the dust spots, and then I will vote to support. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:56, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Fixed Sorry. A lot of dust spots fixed, hopefully all of them. And yes, 20 seconds. --XRay ^talk 09:44, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Support I prefer b&w here --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 11:19, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support This is where the magic happens. :) Also a very good example of how different B&W photography is from today's normal snapping. To do really good B&W pics you almost need to see the scene in B&W as early as in the viewfinder. cart-Talk 12:51, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support Boring in colors, fascinating in black and white. Yann (talk) 14:03, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support Per Yann. --Code (talk) 15:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose too minimalistic incl. BW image. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 15:54, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Comment I like the idea very much, but there are some points that in sum keep me from supporting. B&W totally makes sense here, and I like how it was processed, but is there any chance you can get rid of those haloes around the poles while keeping the rest as it is? Somehow I feel that a slightly wider view with more space at the left would have worked a bit better. As for the clouds, I think I would've preferred them either crispy sharp or or milky soft – as they are now it looks like they are racing at 200 km/h, which kind of disturbs the otherwise calm scene. But all in all, I like it too much to oppose, so I guess I'll just stay  Neutral. Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 16:48, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support - I find this much more striking than the color version, which to me is comparatively bland. I do see the halos El Grafo refers to, but they don't disturb my enjoyment of the photo. There might be 2 dust spots remaining, but it's hard to tell because they could be parts of clouds. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support though some of the bottom could be cropped; a rule of thirds on the horizon rather than on the shoreline would look better here. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:54, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support lNeverCry 23:08, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Fixed Thanks for your reviews. Halos are now removed, aspect ratio is better now too. --XRay ^talk 06:47, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Support Nordsee without a sign of Mordsee. Well captured. --AWeith (talk) 10:35, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose I see why the photographer wanted to try this, but it didn't work for me. The longitudinal staticity of the posts unfortunately doesn't create the hoped-for dynamic with the latitudinal motion of the clouds. In either version. Daniel Case (talk) 01:22, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose The photo does not work for me either. It is not very original --- in fact, it is very similar to a photo on a tutorial on long exposure photography. Moreover, there are some technical issues: There are some dust spots still remaining, and the sky is a bit noisy for a daytime photo. dllu (t,c) 07:05, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Comment - I have to admit, I like this composition better. I'm not completely convinced originality should be a criterion here, as this is not a copy of that photo but to me, more in the nature of a variation on a theme. But you are right to point us to that article, and it's up to each person to decide for themselves on the question of originality. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:36, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Comment I don't think originality is absolutely necessary for an FP, but an FP should at least be outstanding and be better than most other pictures with the same motif. Currently, this photo doesn't stand out from the crowd of hundreds of other similar photos. Many of XRay's other photos are way better than this one, too. dllu (t,c) 21:43, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Comment - Very well-argued. I will ponder this. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Oppose - I've ultimately decided your argument is correct. That composition is better. I don't care so much about the aspect of originality. I've seen other variations on this theme by XRay and would consider each nomination according to the quality of its composition. If any are as good as or better than the "original", I would vote to feature them. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:09, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

•  Fixed Sorry for the dust spots. Hopefully they are removed now. I've made a minor noise reduction too. --XRay ^talk 16:51, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Alternative

• Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Natural#Germany
•  Info all by XRay -- XRay ^talk 09:44, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Comment Alternative version of the image with original colors. --XRay ^talk 09:44, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Neutral I prefer this one, but not enough for FP. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 17:15, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose in favor of the black & white version. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Comment die SW-Umwandlung ist zu dramatisch, viel zu stark rotbetont --Ralf Roleček 20:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose Totally loses its magic. No colors > bad colors. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:54, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose Per KoH. lNeverCry 23:08, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
•  Oppose per above. Daniel Case (talk) 01:22, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 8 support, 4 oppose, {{{neutral}}} neutral → featured. /--Mile (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural#Germany

The chosen alternative is: File:Norderney, Nordsee am Oststrand -- 2016 -- 5167 (bw) - 2.jpg