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Laon Cathedral Nave
distortion --The Photographer (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see what you're talking about now. It's not distortion, it's the actual shape of the building. The leaning horizontal lines are in the original files before stitching too and I make sure my camera is completely horizontal and centred before I shoot. The leaning lines that you noted are probably partially because the choir is not aligned with the nave - if you look carefully you can see that it angles slightly to the left. Diliff (talk) 19:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I make sure my camera is completely horizontal and centred your comment
There are not always and visual hints that you are off-centre your comment
After reviewing the photograph from top to bottom I have concluded that the photograph was not taken from the exact center. I recommend the use of laser device to find the center. --The Photographer (talk) 10:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I added two notes mores, I see the same situation in the windows and columns. Maybe it appears to be a bit stiff towards the upper left corner? --The Photographer (talk) 19:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's possible you're right that I wasn't centred, but the point I was making above and below (in comments to Mile) is that there isn't always one single centre of a church or cathedral. Different areas of the church often have different centres, and some of them are not perfectly symmetrical in the first place. I'm not going to bring a laser range meter to a church. ;-) It's not necessary - I'm not a surveyor, I'm a photographer. The only reason you're even questioning whether I was perfectly centred is because FPC is so oriented towards pixel peeping. There are professional architectural photographers out there making a good income with photos that are not so perfectly aligned as this image IMO and people just accept the image as it is instead of asking for absolute perfection. In any case, as I said, I don't believe the problem you pointed out has anything to do with not being centred. The left side of the central triforium leans upwards while the right side is (virtually) straight. Whether this is because it actually increases in height or whether it is some other geometric issue, I cannot say, but I do know that the lines of this part of the building are not straight in reality. If it was a problem of not being centred, both the left and right sides of it would be leaning but they would be leaning at the same angle, not at different angles. Diliff (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comment Diliff. This is a great picture and I agree with you, it can't be fixed, try fix it could spoil your technique. Best way is take again. The possibility that there is an asymmetry in the Cathedral is possible, but unlikely.Please correct me if I'm wrong, This shot has a no possible opening for the human eye and therefore perhaps Jebulon commentary, however, the inclination generated by the possible lack of center or asymmetry creates a misperception of reality from my point of view. This image is perfect, the technique is perfect, however, I am trying to provide a comment for your images may be better. I am a faithful follower of you, however, this small detail could be corrected with another shot, break your technique for me is not an option.--The Photographer (talk) 10:12, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Sorry no. Just because I know the place very well and I don't recognize this cathedral which is my favorite gothic one. This projection disagreement, as usual.--Jebulon (talk) 19:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Those two "horizontals" at notes aren't as they suppose to be despite central position. But I would definitely put this version, which is much more interesting. Just crop the bottom up to the pillars. --Mile (talk) 20:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC) p.S. On the other hand, they might be such in real, I already experienced similar stuff.[reply]
    • The problem with the horizontals is also often because the central aisle of the church is not actually the true centre of the church. There are not always and visual hints that you are off-centre when you are there in the church and just a few centimetres here or there is enough to create this slight tilt on some horizontal lines. It's very difficult and not always solvable. Even if I did align myself with the centre of the church, it would mean that I would be closer to the left or right side of the aisle and then the aisle would look off-centre. These churches are old and asymmetrical and the photo can't always be symmetrical when this is the case. Diliff (talk) 21:25, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Nice atmosphere! -- Wolf im Wald 21:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support the issues mentioned - if avoidable at all - don't spoil this great picture for me --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 07:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support per Wolf and Martin. --Tremonist (talk) 12:50, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Honestly I don't really care about whether it's perfectly symmetrical or not. The picture is great in quality and composition and has a high educational value. Additionally I find it very beautiful. Of course it's an interpretation of reality somehow - just like every other photograph in this world. What are we complaining about? Let's step back for a moment and reflect about our standards! We promoted lots of pictures in the last months which were not even close to the quality of this one. --Code (talk) 14:54, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:45, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support — Julian H.✈ 09:54, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I also was in Laon recently, as you can see from my own FP nomination, and I also took a photo like this one. But this one is much better. --Uoaei1 (talk) 10:16, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 9 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Laitche (talk) 05:13, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Interiors/Religious buildings
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