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File:Durer -The Promenade.jpeg[edit]
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Info created by Albrecht Dürer - uploaded by Claritas - nominated by Claritas -- Claritas (talk) 11:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Support -- Claritas (talk) 11:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)- Support -- Very nice Jean-Pol GRANDMONT (talk) 12:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Support --Michael Gäbler (talk) 14:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Oppose Exquisite detail level. I am probably a cold-hearted art ignorant when saying this, but this engraving does not really get to me nearly as much as for instance Melancholia or many other of Dürers works, like the Apocalypse series. --Slaunger (talk) 20:25, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with you that this is one of the less interesting Dürer engravings from an aesthetic point of view. Still, it's a work of art of undoubted historical importance.--Claritas (talk) 14:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but there are very many pieces of artwork, which has historical importance, and in that case we might as well feature almost all of Dürers works, provided they are available in adequate technical quality:-) For me, FP is the one in a thousand image, thus only for the best of or by the best, even when created by a very good and notable artist like Dürer. The objective for this standpoint is to maintain diversity in our FP gallery. --Slaunger (talk) 22:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- As my opinion, it doesn't fair if we would do the way you said. How would some pictures that deserve FP but because they are from the same artist, which make them not FP? If all Dürers works deserve FP then we should FP them all. Give them what they deserve. The objective to maintain diversity is a picky unfair way of picking FP. I also think the ratio is pretty much unfair too. 1:1000? Why does it has to be like that? FP should not following any kind of ratio or rule that limit the actual FP standard. Give the pictures what they deserve FP regardless of whatever. This is the same as trying to force people to take other "rare" pictures to apply for FP. This wouldn't affect the diversity at all because people will apply whatever pictures they got.
- Concerning the ratio I think 1:1000 is actually a higher ratio than we currently have on Commons if you count the number of FPs vs the number of image files on Commons. So it is not a rule (or my personal rule), it reflects (ballpark) things as they are now. I am open to "several" of Dürers works being featured if they are of sufficient importance, and quality, but not all of them, even if they are all of historical value and has artistic merit. I am not sure how many "several" would be, but probably not more than five in my opinion. But that is just my opinion. I do not mind that other users have other opinions, and that I appear to be overruled by other opinions for this particular nomination. --Slaunger (talk) 23:00, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I just checked the numbers. We have about 3800 FPs on Commons and 11.8 million files of which the vast majority are images. That gives an FP ratio of approximately 1:3000 (rounding down to closest thousand), so I was being overly inclusionist in my 1:1000 statement above :-). --Slaunger (talk) 23:10, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- As my opinion, it doesn't fair if we would do the way you said. How would some pictures that deserve FP but because they are from the same artist, which make them not FP? If all Dürers works deserve FP then we should FP them all. Give them what they deserve. The objective to maintain diversity is a picky unfair way of picking FP. I also think the ratio is pretty much unfair too. 1:1000? Why does it has to be like that? FP should not following any kind of ratio or rule that limit the actual FP standard. Give the pictures what they deserve FP regardless of whatever. This is the same as trying to force people to take other "rare" pictures to apply for FP. This wouldn't affect the diversity at all because people will apply whatever pictures they got.
- Yes, but there are very many pieces of artwork, which has historical importance, and in that case we might as well feature almost all of Dürers works, provided they are available in adequate technical quality:-) For me, FP is the one in a thousand image, thus only for the best of or by the best, even when created by a very good and notable artist like Dürer. The objective for this standpoint is to maintain diversity in our FP gallery. --Slaunger (talk) 22:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with you that this is one of the less interesting Dürer engravings from an aesthetic point of view. Still, it's a work of art of undoubted historical importance.--Claritas (talk) 14:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Support --Schnobby (talk) 09:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Support Trongphu (talk) 22:48, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose No wow factor. --Norbert Nagel (talk) 22:19, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination -- Claritas (talk) 10:48, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
