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File:Anthophora on Lamium 1.jpg, not featured[edit]

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Anthophora sp., female approaching a Lamium garganicum flower.
  •  Info all by Gidip -- Gidip (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Gidip (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Tomer T (talk) 12:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Llez (talk) 10:35, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose 50% of the image could be cropped without losing context. The dark background interferes with the contour of the insect... --Tomascastelazo (talk) 14:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose As Tomas and not id'ed. พ.s. 07:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Many insects can not be identified to species level from a photograph, we have been through this before. I hope you do appreciate how much luck is needed to get a (relatively) sharp shot of a bee in flight. I don't know of any other such picture in commons, except honeybees, which are so common, and don't extend their tongues whilst in flight. Gidip (talk) 09:32, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Nobody stops you from uploading unidentified critters to commons. The EV of those images is however greatly reduced. But why you have to force feed them to FP is beyond me. Is it a must that all your picture have to pass this channel? พ.s. 07:59, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • One can assume from your comment that a creature can be either "identified" or "unidentified", black or white. The organisms are indeed identified, but not to species level. Since species grouped together into higher taxa have many features in common (which is why they are grouped together), images identified to a higher taxon have much EV in many cases, and it is not necessarily reduced. Open books about ecology of flies or bees and see how many photographed creatures are not IDed to species. Absence of a species ID does not and should not in itself disqualify images from FP status. There is no rule which demands such an ID. Am I force feeding all my images to FPC? I take that as an insult. Gidip (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • That's funny as I don't feel insulted when you try to teach me my profession in a condescending manner :-). พ.s. 21:51, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • I think saying to someone he's trying to "force feed" his pictures to FP is far more out of place than giving someone explanation about something related to his profession, without knowing what his profession is. Tomer T (talk) 22:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • That's all due to a phenomenon called perception. And BTW, Tomer, my comments were not nearly an insult nor meant to be. One unfortunately needs a rather thick skin when lingering over here. พ.s. 07:54, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral I agree with Gidip: most papers and ecology books have lots of unidentified species! This is a very difficult shot and I would have supported it. Unfortunately the dark background is very disturbing to the eye when trying to see the bee contour. --Paolo Costa (talk) 14:00, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • What I forgot to mention is, the picture is not about the bee in isolation, but about the interaction between the bee and the flower, and the flower is fully identified. Same goes to the other pictures I nominated here. Gidip (talk) 19:00, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Earth'sbuddy 11:04 May 11 2012
  •  Support--H. Krisp (talk) 17:49, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 5 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 20:15, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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