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File:20101227 USA embassy graffiti Tehran Iran.jpg, not featured[edit]

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USA embassy graffiti Tehran Iran
  •  Info created by ggia - uploaded by ggia - nominated by ggia -- Ggia (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- A similar image from the former-USA embassy in Tehran was nominated here [1]. Looking to the comments in the previous nomination.. I don't think nominating this image means that we (or me as a nominator) support any kind of anti-american propaganda. BTW I love also the other image with the antisemitic/anti-american message.. both have very high EV for an article like Iran hostage crisis. Recently (a few days ago) some protests.. that remind me the iran hostage crisis.. took place in front of the British embassy in Tehran [2]. [3] Ggia (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak oppose Highly valuable, and very good image quality. The lady in chador sets the scene nicely concerning the location. But the light is dull, and the composition as such is not that attractive in my opinion (I think the previous nom had more wow, although it does not set the scene as nicely as this nomination). I think the photo could be a good candidate as a valued image within a scope such as Grafitti at USA embassy in Tehran (in competition with previous nom and other candidates) as the grafitti at this particular location seems to be notable. I agree with you that nominating (or perhaps promoting) such an image is not equivalent with supporting anti-american propaganda. It is merely an educational and informative photo of a particular place where a particular POV is expressed. --Slaunger (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support As a photograph I think this is very good. I agree the light is dull and I'd be tempted to clone out the distracting bottom left corner of the pavement. But the diagonal lines are effective in leading the eye towards the woman, as does the image of the gun. As an image it is very powerful: an American gun pointing towards an Arab civilian. I can see it would be a useful image that illustrates some peoples' feelings towards the US. However that image is an artefact of the composition and not contained within the graffiti itself. It illustrates an emotion rather than captures a physical object. I was concerned this could be considered political art (rather than a photograph of notable political art, which would be ok) but think it has useful educational illustrative value. Colin (talk) 09:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Colin, you are right about the composition. I do not know if it was a deliberate effect from Ggias side, but it is quite "smart" element in the composition. Modified my vote above. --Slaunger (talk) 10:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose dull light, to grey. VI yes, FP: no for me. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 11:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment @Colin: please notice that Iranians are not "Arabs" at all...--Jebulon (talk) 13:56, 3 December 2011 (UTC) @Slaunger: maybe the persian word chador could be more appropriated than the pachto one burqa, for the description of the cloth of the lady. I know I'm maybe nitpicking, but I think it is important to be precise in this (sensitive) matter. As we say in french: "Le Diable réside dans les détails"...--Jebulon (talk) 14:12, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info in Iran the women usually (I am not sure to tell never) don't wear burqa. Look to my blog these 3 images to understand how the dressing look like [4]. Traveling to Iran for 20 days I didn't see a woman with covered face. A lot of young iranian women have half of the head uncovered. May-be this stereotype is from your experience with Turkey or Syria or arab countries, where you can find women with burga.. it is not the same in Iran. The problem is that in this image you get a stereotype that women in Iran are like Afganistan or like Arab countries (where burga exists and lot of women wear it). Ggia (talk) 14:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment @Jebulon and @Ggia: Thank you for educating me. I must admit, that I am not very knowledgeable about the different clothings worn in these countries. I have corrected my decription. As a pedantic I appreciate to be corrected when I state something, which is factually not correct. I am familiar with "The Devil is in the Detail". We have that saying as well, and I agree. --Slaunger (talk) 14:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies if my ignorance caused any offence. You learn something every day. Colin (talk) 09:16, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes you are right, and thanks to "Commons" for that ! Sorry if you feel me a bit pedant.--Jebulon (talk) 17:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 16:40, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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