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•  Info created & uploaded by JJ Harrison – nominated by Ivar (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support -- Ivar (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --El Golli Mohamed (talk) 16:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 16:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Lovely, but the legs are underfocused. Wolverine XI 16:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

  in such light conditions (low light) you can only open the diaphragm to full aperture to have a decent image and obviously everything will not be in focus. You must always take the shooting conditions into account. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 17:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Very true! Unfortunately, this is an old problem on FPC. Too many voters who have never tried photographing under difficult conditions, or have no proper understanding of what can be done technically, will think that all photos should have the same quality as a well-lit, stacked church façade or a studio photo. --Cart (talk) 20:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Cart's statement comes across as passive-aggressive. If I understand correctly, you are directly placing me in the category of "voters who have never tried photographing under difficult conditions, or have no proper understanding of what can be done technically". That's fine, do you; there's a legitimate reason why I don't post my pictures here, but that doesn't make me any less inadequate. I have no problem with the other responses here, except Cart's. Keep in mind that this is not the first time it has occurred; see here. Wolverine XI 07:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

There can be no argument on the settings used. But the criticism in the context of FPC is valid. It is difficult to take an FP-standard image in low light. I would be more than happy to support this level of technical quality if the bird was rare. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, this.  Support --SHB2000 (talk) 05:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Support --Ermell (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support In perfect light, the focus is sharp on the eye, which matters at this depth of field. More is not possible at f/4. An excellent capture in my view. -- Radomianin (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Light and composition -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Superb shot as usual from JJ. Cmao20 (talk) 02:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support per Radomianin. BigDom (talk) 03:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support per Radomianin. – Aristeas (talk) 07:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --Llez (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support There is no rule to have the whole subject in focus, and in many cases it is just impossible technically. The Image Guidelines state: "Depth of field is chosen according to the specific needs of every picture", and there is the example photo of a cat with focus on eyes and shallow DOF. I consider this image in compliance with the Image Guidelines. Nice photo of interesting subject with "wow-effect" IMO. LexKurochkin (talk) 11:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

I strongly agree with you. This issue should be addressed. --Shagil Kannur (talk) 14:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Support At f4 with 1/100s while still beeing at ISO 6400 it must have been a very dark place. The photograph could not have been taken in a better way as smaller aperture (=more DoF) would have resulted in increased ISO. Also to me the most important thing to get in focus in animal photography is the eye and the bird eye is perfectly in focus. Focus stacking is usually impossible on birds as they tend to keep moving and I always find it quite impressive how JJ Harrisson manages shutter speeds of 1/100s with them -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, I agree. And I have the same thoughts about JJ Harrisson photoes. LexKurochkin (talk) 15:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

  Tripod? Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

  My remark was not about the technique but about the fact that birds are always moving. And the answer is simple : burst photography until you have a split second where the bird/animal didn't move and then you just need to pick the good photo out of the hundreds you've taken (that's also what I did for photographing this chimpanzee at 1/80s in a very dark forest. Also, since almost all of JJ's pictures of birds on the ground are perfectly taken on bird eye level I suspect that he doesn't use tripod (it would be too high) but just puts his camera on the ground or on a camera bean bag. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

  'burst photography until you have a split second where the bird/animal didn't move' is not my technique. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

  As Giles said, tripod solves only a half of the problem, the other half is bird's behavior. LexKurochkin (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Support Beautiful. --Shagil Kannur (talk) 14:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support -- WildMouse76 (talk) 03:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 07:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Cart is right. --Yann (talk) 10:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 12:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --GRDN711 (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support A support filled with a recurring envy of JJ's talent and equipment. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  22:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --Harlock81 (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 21 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 13:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Animals/Birds#Family : Phasianidae (Grouse, Partridges, Peafowl, Pheasants, Quail, Turkeys)